Nightvision and shooting

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Do any of you guys hunt or shoot with nightvision?

Either nightvision scopes, or helmet/head mounted nightvision. If the latter, which lasers and/or illuminators do you use?

Does anybody use budget stuff, or are you guys running high dollar stuff?
 
I have used Thermal, various generations of image intensifier designs and digital ones.

Digital is the cheapest but you get what you pay for.

Only thing I have ever hunted with them were hogs.
 
Other than racoon, what would you possibly hunt at night?

Coyotes and hogs too.

I used nightvision in the military. Mostly for going after people and not animals. Our monocular was helmet mounted that worked with a weapon mounted IR illuminator. For civilian use I would recommend using a weapon mount to work with a red dot so you are not investing in a Kevlar helmet or a hard to find head mount.
 
I have only used "military grade" items for various applications. The AN PVS-14 is the most versatile item, as it is a monocular. It can be helmet/head harness mounted , and thus used to navigate and observe at night, but to use it head mounted and employ a weapon you need a laser on the gun. The 14 can also be mounted on a rifle like the AR15, stacked behind a sight like an ACOG or M68 aimpoint. To observe with this setup, you need to raise the weapon (and thus point it at everything you are looking at). You don't need a kevlar helmet- there are various harnesses or they can be mounted on PRO-TECH hockey type helmets (this was a common practice where I worked on recon operations). Another great piece of NV gear is the Universal Night Sight (UNS) AN PVS-22 (or 26, or 27). They are modules that mount on extended rails in front of a day sniper scope, making that scope a night scope. They work great, but they definitely make the rifle cumbersome and top-heavy (and sniper rifles are already pretty heavy) so you need a bipod, sandbag, window sill, or some other type of solid support. Except for crew served weapons like machine guns, we never weapon mounted thermal sights- but we did use mini thermals (about the size of a digital handy-cam) for observation. All of this stuff is pricey. I'm sure there are civilian versions of all of it, but when it comes to NV and thermal you definitely get what you pay for.
 
this thread has some pics of my long distance night shooting from back in 2012. i used to go out and do this about 3 nights a week. ton of fun. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/long-distance-night-shoots.664418/

here's a couple pics of stuff on my hat
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i have gone to texas and hunted hogs, etc. got a nice bobcat too
 
I'd love to pick up a nice bump helmet (not ballistic or anything), and some PVS-14s with a wp tube. And then get a MAWL. I'm gonna have to wait for some inheritance money for that though because $$$.

I think my wife would frown on taking out a second mortgage...
 
i honestly don't get the WP craze. it's still one color / greyscale. so who cares if it's white or green? i'd prob pick white if they were the same $. but it's not worth a lot of extra $ to me.

MAWL also seems very cool. but again, not worth the price to me compared to a PEQ15 or dbal
 
Coyotes and hogs too.

I used nightvision in the military. Mostly for going after people and not animals. Our monocular was helmet mounted that worked with a weapon mounted IR illuminator. For civilian use I would recommend using a weapon mount to work with a red dot so you are not investing in a Kevlar helmet or a hard to find head mount.
My thoughts exactly based on sumo experience.
 
Amazing how every state is so different.
And there's something of a seething debate on the feral hog population in Texas.
TPW insists it's nor more than 5-6 million pigs.
Some credible wildlife biologists have projected numbers greater than the State's human population (26 million).

And getting reliable data is complicated, as there's 260,000 square miles of land area, and 18 million of the 26 million humans live in 19 of the 254 counties. So, there are a lot square miles without many people on them. And feral pigs can adapt to a ride range of ecologies.
 
Coincidentally I went out tonight to shoot with the nv a bit. Brought the gf and it was really cold up on the mountain so we didn’t stay for a long round count. Prob best with ammo prices anyway.

The experience made me remember why you have to go out and practice and use your stuff and not just expect because you own it for everything to work

I’ll skip the pics but I shot the silencerco maxim and while I normally love shooting with my dual illumination RMR and nods, the maxim9 has nuclear bright night sights which is like a spot light in your face with nv.
They’re actually so bright that at one point I had the nods and pistol in the back of the sxs and walked past it and saw a green glow and thought I’d left the nods on but it was the night sights on the pistol.
It still worked but definitely want to cover those up in the future. despite that, the pistol works great and is super quiet.

Gf just got her hair did today and her cold weather gear wasn’t compatible with helmet. Gloves impaired normal operation of weapons too

Cold or dead battery caused erratic behavior from one of my IR laser/Illuminators. Laser would come on momentarily but wouldn’t stay on. Still got hits just screwing around but would have been a challenge if the targets were moving.

Got first round hits on couple targets past 400 yards with the long gun and pvs27. No prob hitting 6” diameter plate. Operating the rifle is a lot different in the dark. Same for managing ammo and gear. Need to practice more to get a little smoother and faster getting set up and ranging and focusing everything, turning on illum reticle etc. speaking of which, I forgot to turn it off. Prob have to change battery in my scope now lol
 
Interesting info here guys. I have used the Leupold thermal tracker for scanning farmlands which works quite well considering it’s under 1000 bucks. Still expensive though. but I poor boy it with green or white lights on my rifle. Effective range to about 300 yards. Have been looking into some night vision as well as thermal. Just have a hard time committing to that much expense with that much electronic dependency. Note worthy is that we put low power lights above some of our feeders. Some use white lights some use green lights. The deer don’t like the white at all and the hogs don’t care. So we may switch them all to white. Using the green gun light on a white light feeder makes the hogs a little nervous but they don’t blow out. Same color lights and they don’t even notice it.
 
Went out today and took some pics of the targets I shot last night.

targets are across the valley in the small clearing on top of far mountain. About 415 yards from where the dog is.
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I shot the three white targets at night. Large to small.
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The two black hostage taker targets were shot during the day earlier in the week.

conditions last night were quite dark with just a sliver of moon. I couldn’t see the black targets.
 
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