Agree. I got a campaign medal for Bush 1 Desert Shield in 1990. And our young folks are still over there.
What should be minimum age to own firearms, 18 or 25?
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Agree. I got a campaign medal for Bush 1 Desert Shield in 1990. And our young folks are still over there.
I did my Brown Root war and have no interest in a Halliburton war.
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Old enough to serve and vote, old enough to own a handgun in my book.
theotherwaldo
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Parents are responsible for the actions of their offspring until their offspring are 18 years of age.
If they want their offspring to have access to guns alcohol, tobacco, automobiles or anything else before the age of 18 then it is the responsibility of the parent or parents.
If the offspring acts irresponsibly then it is the responsibility of the parent or parents to correct the actions of the offspring, deny access to the items that were used irresponsibly or accept the legal consequences of allowing their irresponsible offspring to have access to these items.
Once the offspring has reached the age of majority then they are responsible for any further actions or decisions.
If they want their offspring to have access to guns alcohol, tobacco, automobiles or anything else before the age of 18 then it is the responsibility of the parent or parents.
If the offspring acts irresponsibly then it is the responsibility of the parent or parents to correct the actions of the offspring, deny access to the items that were used irresponsibly or accept the legal consequences of allowing their irresponsible offspring to have access to these items.
Once the offspring has reached the age of majority then they are responsible for any further actions or decisions.
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I often wonder , at what age should we be taking them away from folks that age has diminished there physical and mental state ? I see 12 year olds that are much safer with a firearm than some elderly folks . For example, last range visit my son and I hid behind my truck when I observed two elderly folks probably in their late 80s on the line fumbling with a semi-auto pistol . Neither one of them were strong enough work the slide...no matter how much they waved around pointing it at folks . Finally one guy cocked it for her . She shot once (thankfully downrange), and then left . I watched them like a hawk , thankfully the gentleman put his AR 15 back in the truck without trying to fire it . Another observation, he had his finger on the trigger the whole time he had that AR in his hands.
stonebuster
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You can't set an advanced age limit on gun ownership. Possibly a competency test at a range before permit renewal for extremely elderly. Most responsible gun owners know when their bodies or skills have diminished to the point where it's time. For some it might be 70 for a few it could be 100.
Howland937
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You can't put a number on maturity or responsibility. Some folks attain both at an early age while a hell of a lot never do. Whenever a person's feet stop growing, call 'em legal.
AlexanderA
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Look, the current rule (despite a recent court decision to the contrary) is that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun from a dealer. My proposal for a "learner's permit" or probationary period from age 18 to 21 would actually loosen that. Perhaps you could have a parent co-purchase or co-sign, as an exception to the "straw purchase" problem. Revise Form 4473 accordingly.
What we don't want is thugs at the upper age range of juvenile gang membership getting guns. At least not easily, from a dealer.
I was 22 when I got my first handgun, and 23 when I got my first AR. I didn't consider that a great hardship. But then, I wasn't a gang-banger.
What we don't want is thugs at the upper age range of juvenile gang membership getting guns. At least not easily, from a dealer.
I was 22 when I got my first handgun, and 23 when I got my first AR. I didn't consider that a great hardship. But then, I wasn't a gang-banger.
And to deliver pizza, work in a pharmacy, drive an ambulance, serve as a firefighter, etc.?
You brought them up. Give us your insight.
danez71
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Genearly speaking, 18. But I think it should be consistent what ever it is including considering whether 15-16 yr old being tried as an adult is right.
There's a lot of truth in that.
The reason they want them at 17 and 18 is because they are still dumb enough and conditioned to do as they are told. All youd get from a 65 year old is GFY!
There's a lot of truth in that.
No, I would not raise the age for those or for military service or for firearms ownership.
wbm
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18
Zendude
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For military service, 18 may be ok for the volunteer army. For draftees, 21 or maybe even older.
For firearms, I think you have to go with 18.
For firearms, I think you have to go with 18.
.308 Norma
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LOL!
C'mon man, I still have a pair of size 10&1/2 flight boots that were issued to me when I was 21, and in the US Navy. The pair of Merrill brand hiking shoes I bought a couple weeks ago are size 12 (as are most of my other shoes and boots), and I'm 73 now!
My wife claims a person's weight has something to do with shoe size too. She's lost quite a bit of weight in the last year (because she's had to watch her diet due to being on Warfarin) and she claims most of her shoes are too big for her now. Of course she might be saying that just because she wants to buy some new shoes to go along with her slimmer figure and new wardrobe - which is okay by me.
Ironicaintit
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18 seems like a no brainer to me.
Howland937
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Well then youngster, how long have you been buying size 12? We'll have to retroactively tell you that you were illegally buying guns for however long before that.LOL!
C'mon man, I still have a pair of size 10&1/2 flight boots that were issued to me when I was 21, and in the US Navy. The pair of Merrill brand hiking shoes I bought a couple weeks ago are size 12 (as are most of my other shoes and boots), and I'm 73 now!
My wife claims a person's weight has something to do with shoe size too. She's lost quite a bit of weight in the last year (because she's had to watch her diet due to being on Warfarin) and she claims most of her shoes are too big for her now. Of course she might be saying that just because she wants to buy some new shoes to go along with her slimmer figure and new wardrobe - which is okay by me.
Seems almost as ridiculous as claiming nobody is mature enough to buy guns before they're 25 doesn't it?
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Well, rental car companies do not consider anyone under 25 to be mature or responsible enough to rent a car. With the immaturity and irresponsibility of a large majority of today's youth (thanks to public school educations) I opt for 25 for everything legal, especially voting and deciding on things like what gender they want to be, let alone owning a gun. entering into contracts, etc.
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Fact: beginning on the calendar day of your eighteenth birthday, the law, and in turn, the court system, treats you as an adult when they charge you with something.
As far as the law is concerned, you ARE an adult the day of your eighteenth birthday, and in my opinion that should be the age of majority for ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.
Straight up, if you want to use the "old enough to serve" argument, then I guess it should be January 1st of the calendar year of your eighteenth birthday.
As far as the law is concerned, you ARE an adult the day of your eighteenth birthday, and in my opinion that should be the age of majority for ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.
Straight up, if you want to use the "old enough to serve" argument, then I guess it should be January 1st of the calendar year of your eighteenth birthday.
Howland937
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Freedom of speech too? Freedom to practice (or not) any religion they choose?
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A lot of the problems we are having today, is because "companies" are telling us what we can and can not do. It has nothing to do with our rights, and everything to do with their bottom lines.
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Having seen today's youth, I have to agree with their thinking at this point in time. Back several decades, it was different; however the last 20 years have shown the opposite to be trueA lot of the problems we are having today, is because "companies" are telling us what we can and can not do. It has nothing to do with our rights, and everything to do with their bottom lines.
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At my Army installation, Avis was the on-post rental company. I guess part of deal was that the usual 25 and over requirement was null and void if you wanted to service the military community. An amazing DoD policy that actually benefited soldiers, and was a rare breath of fresh air. We had to remind our soldiers that the civilian world was not so enlightened.
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So you're OK with the big conglomerates, that seem to run everything controlling every aspect of your life?
I thought we were supposed to be a free people, with a Constitution that protected our rights from crap like this?
Thats some pretty scary thinking right there.
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