Armadillo vs. 1866: The Good, the Bad, and the Painful

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MacAR

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Last night, I decided to do a bit of armadillo hunting down in the hayfield. So I grabbed up my 1866 in 38 Special, some extra ammo, a good light, and 'ol Sam (my cur dog). We'd been pretty successful, knocking off three in about 30 minutes time. On the fourth, my luck changed. Sam took after it and managed to bay it, and I fired one shot at pretty close range and missed. The critter ran, and I racked the lever on the '66. It hung up. I figured that I'd had a swelled crimp (some of my rifle loads were a bit hard to chamber) and so gave the lever a pretty good smack. BANG! I couldn't hear anything, and I'd dropped my light. I scrabbled around for the light, and looked at my rifle; the round detonated outside the chamber. As my rifle was out of commission, I started the hike back to the house (about 200 yards). About halfway back, I noticed my t-shirt was wet. Looking down, I was bleeding pretty good from center of my chest. Needless to say, I picked up the pace. Got back inside and let the wife patch me up; she's a pretty good hand at that. My face also caught some powder burns, but nothing major. She managed to pick the shrapnel out of my chest and sew it up (did I mention she's a good hand?) and cleaned the rest of the small cuts and etc.

Afterward, I examined my rifle and found that the bullet from the exploded cartridge was still in the chamber, and the case head was on the lifter. So, I worked the case head out through the loading gate, and then used a heavy brass rod to punch the bullet and case neck out of the chamber. On further examination, I found that there was a broken case in the chamber and it was stuck pretty hard. But after quite a bit of work, I managed to pry it up enough that I could drive it out with my brass rod and then cleaned the rifle well. I believe that the broken case was one with a cannelure around the middle of it, and probably loaded too many times at that. Unfortunately, I'll be unable to find the other piece of it so I'll never know for sure. And to make matters worse, I've scarred the chamber slightly in my "prying" and will have to do some polishing on it.

At the end of the day, I've learned a couple lessons. The most important one being "don't force cartridges into the chamber!". I'm also on the hunt for a broken case extractor for this rifle, and my other calibers.

Mac
 
So what struck the primer?

Probably the extractor.

Glad you were not hurt worst OP, and its good to have a wife that can patch you up.

I have always found manual actions like lever-guns (pump actions etc) need good crisp determined motion but to never force it when things don't feel right. I have never forced a firearm and made things better. Good lesson learned OP sorry it took a bad experience to learn it but its a very good lesson.

Now polish up that chamber and get back out there whacking those up-armored opossums!
 
Probably the extractor.

Actually, the blown case had been fired by the firing pin; how, I'm not sure. Only thing I can figure is that when I smacked the lever with the heel of my hand, I jarred the hammer off and it fired with the case about 2/3's the way in the chamber. Whatever the cause, it was a strange occurrence for me, and hopefully my last of that kind.

Glad you were not hurt worst OP, and its good to have a wife that can patch you up.

She isn't too bad for a bank teller! I taught her a lot, even though I'm not remotely qualified. Learned a lot from an old country doc/vet that lived around here when I was young, and will say it probably saved my life a time or two.

Now polish up that chamber and get back out there whacking those up-armored opossums!

As to the polishing of the chamber, I'd normally do it my "patented" way (using fine sandpaper wound around a dowel and chucked in a drill), but in this case I'm considering buying/renting a finishing reamer for the job. Or having a 'smith do it for me (which might be best). I'll probably try my way first, and if that won't work I'll send it to my 'smith.

Never fear, however; I have my stand-by rifle loaded and ready for tonight's jaunt!

Mac
 
I thought one of the "issues" with the Henry/1866 was not having a disconnect preventing out of battery fire. I believe this was fixed for the 1873 design.

Did you brush the trigger while trying to force the lever?
 
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Did you brush the trigger while trying to force the lever?

Possibly; actually, most likely. It was a sort of "heat of the moment" thing and I'm not entirely sure how it happened. I do know that the primer was dimpled by the firing pin, and try as I might, I've not been able to replicate the incident without touching the trigger.

@MacAR, glad you weren't more seriously hurt. Sounds like the rifle isn't permanently damaged, either. Thanks for sharing the well-written escapade.

It's my pleasure. I related this incident so that hopefully others won't repeat my stupidity. It was 100% my fault, as I was in a hurry. But a person should NEVER EVER force a round like I tried to do. Heck, I don't know why I was in such a hurry; it wasn't like marauding Apaches were coming for my hair or a bear was out for my blood. In the future I'll be much more careful, rest assured.

On a somewhat related note, I ran all of my "rifle" loads into the chamber after I cleaned it well. Those that went in easily were put in one pile, and those that wouldn't go were set aside to be resized, or failing that, taken apart and re-loaded. I'm also in the process of going through all of my brass and have plans to remove any cases that have the cannelure around their middle, as I feel like that is what caused this whole mess in the first place. Of course, I don't know how many times some of these cases have been loaded. Maybe twice and maybe 10 times; it may have simply been a weak case to begin with. I suppose I'll never know.

Mac
 
Thats wasn't a .357Mag perhaps?

Nope; that was the first thing I checked. :D

It was one of my reloads however; though I am reminded that I no longer have any .357 brass, as I don't really shoot heavy loads any more I didn't use it, and so disposed of it. Anymore, I just load "healthy" loads into 38 cases. It is certainly possible that the first case might've been over-charged, but I don't recall it feeling any louder or heavier recoiling. The load I use is 4.0 grs Bullseye under a 158gr Speer Semi Jacket Soft Point bullet, set off by a Federal 200 SPP. I use a Lee Perfect Powder Measure to measure my powder and weigh every 10th charge, and so far have seen no signs of over pressure. However, things happen and I've no doubt that could've been part of the problem if not the cause.

Mac
 
4 gr. of Bullseye does not take up much space in a 38 Special case. Could a strange distribution of powder in the case (caused by the rough handling) contributed to this faux pow?
 
:eek: Now ya tell me! Where were you when I needed ya? :D In all seriousness, I knew better and did it anyway. Never done that before and don't know why I decided that then was a good time to try it out. As a good friend of mine likes to say: "crash, burn, and learn".

Mac
You know if hed been there he would have said "don't do that!" Just as you hit the lever........:p
Glad the injuries weren't worse. Not forcing things is a lesson to be learned..... usually multiple times.......
 
Out of battery discharges happen sometimes in cowboy action competition. The competitor is levering fast, the cartridge does not feed into the chamber smoothly... if the firing pin return spring is worn, broken, or intentionally weakened, the firing pin’s forward inertia may be enough to ignite the primer.

Every round I reload is checked with a case/cartridge gauge. Cheap insurance against an oversized round, even though I no longer own a ‘66. The 1873’s lever safety is comforting, but only foolish people trust safeties completely.

I’m glad you were not seriously injured. Get a gauge and make it part of your reloading process. I don’t want to read a future post about a discharge that occurred while you were testing live ammo in your rifle’s chamber!

:thumbup:

edit: I like Uniquetek:

https://www.uniquetek.com/case-gauges
 
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Could a strange distribution of powder in the case (caused by the rough handling) contributed to this faux pow?

I don't think so, Doc. There is a clean firing pin mark on the exploded case, which leads me to believe I fired it either by jarring the hammer off or brushing the trigger with my thumb as I smacked the lever.

Not forcing things is a lesson to be learned..... usually multiple times......

Yea.... You'd think I'd have figured that out by now! Maybe this lesson will stick... At least for a while.

Get a gauge and make it part of your reloading process.

I think I will. Thanks for the link, pard.

Mac
 
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