Well, that was quick and worked out well for the good guy.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/armed-robber-shot-face-armed-victim-texas
https://www.foxnews.com/us/armed-robber-shot-face-armed-victim-texas
Armed robber shot in face by armed victim in Texas just days after permitless carry begins
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thunderbyrd
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gee, i love it when a plan comes together.
and, just think: all his life, he's gonna look at that mistake in the mirror, everyday.
and, just think: all his life, he's gonna look at that mistake in the mirror, everyday.
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Sistema1927
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Victim? I think not. The perp thought he was a mark, but it didn't turn out well for him.
Kevin Keith
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You were expecting maybe an easy target? lol
Double Naught Spy
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What we don't know is if the victim (and he was a victim of attempted armed robbery) was carrying because of the new law or not, however. The victim may have had a LTC. The article doesn't say one way or the other.
Also, another great example of a head shot not always being fatal.
Also, another great example of a head shot not always being fatal.
FROGO207
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Well you gotta have a brain for a headshot to be fatal!
Seems AWOL here.
Seems AWOL here.thunderbyrd
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what's frustrating is that the news never reports the facts we really care about: what calibers, size of bullet, what ammo was used? (i'm guessing probably not .357.) semi or wheelgun? did the shooter draw from a pocket or a holster or crossdraw or what? or was he walking up the street with a 12 guage over his shoulder and the thief thought, "hey, i think i'll steal that shotgun?"
i guess we'll have to wait for the movie, but there's no guarantee they'll get it right.
i guess we'll have to wait for the movie, but there's no guarantee they'll get it right.
dh1633pm
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First thing that comes to mind is "that's gotta hurt" or "that's gonna leave a mark". Truth in the matter the perpetrator is lucky to be alive. The victim impacted for life. Sad in this day and age people have to be victimized and forced to respond with deadly force.
theotherwaldo
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-Not a victim!
A VICTOR!!
A VICTOR!!
Double Naught Spy
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The news never mentions the cylinder displacement, engine modifications, tires, or suspension on automotive wrecks, either.
No they don't mention superfluous detail. Often, they are not provided that sort of detail by the cops, either. They can't report what they don't have.
[snicker] ...
[chuckle] ...
[laugh] ...
[GUFFAW!]
Have you not read any current news articles for the past six years????
Well, they do if it's someone who just won a Lamborghini
. Maybe not superfluous in this case 
.https://www.motortrend.com/news/utah-man-wins-lamborghini-murcielago-crashes-same-day-149437/
Alte Schule
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Yup, even if the criminal gets off with a light sentence or an acquittal every day he looks in the mirror he will be reminded justice was served.
CapnMac
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And, of course, the other omitted factor is that "carry" has been pretty much unchanged from one side of 01SEP21 than the other.
People who were carrying are still carrying--some proportion of which no longer doing so without license.
And, given that concealed carry is legal, it will be extremely hard to detect who is newly carrying under the law.
People who were carrying are still carrying--some proportion of which no longer doing so without license.
And, given that concealed carry is legal, it will be extremely hard to detect who is newly carrying under the law.
Double Naught Spy
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Well, they do if it's someone who just won a Lamborghini
https://www.motortrend.com/news/utah-man-wins-lamborghini-murcielago-crashes-same-day-149437/
Wow. Motortrend isn't a typical news organization and they didn't mention cylinder displacement, engine modifications, tires, or suspension despite specializing in cars. Hmmm.
Funny you should ask. I will often look at news stories and when they report the police as a source, find the actual police statements and/or videos. Sometimes they are there, sometimes not. The police may sometimes say caliber, but not "size of the bullet," or the ammo used. The usually don't distinguish between a semi-auto or a wheel gun. They virtually never report the carry method, such as "cross draw holster."
Are you seeing news accounts that report this information? Here is a typical news account of a victim fighting back.
https://www.news9.com/story/61256f2...e-outside-bricktown-movie-theater-police-say-
When the police don't give information to reporters, it isn't going to be in print. And generally speaking, reporters don't ask for this sort of detail because the general public doesn't care on iota about such minutia. In some of the mass shooting cases, some of that information does come out, but not in what would comparatively be called "common" shootings or gunfights.
theotherwaldo
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If I were the person being reported about, I'd rather that the press avoided telling the world what I carried and how I carried it... .
Why on Earth would anyone ever expect that kind of information?
lemaymiami
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Street Life… Robbery is dangerous business… sometimes the victim fights back.
Yeah, I saw after I posted the article they only listed make, model and horsepower and they missed the items you mentioned. I'm not a news reporter, so accuracy of my reporting doesn't matter. Leave it to the press to miss the good stuff; just thought it was a humorous article about a car crash that popped into my head when I read your post. Anyway back to the thread topic. Sorry to divert
uzimon
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Haha
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Right, so news organizations typically don't include all of the specialized fine details of every story they cover. Even Motortrend, which might cover a lot of automotive details, still doesn't always include everything about the particular topic that it covers. If a jumbo jet has an engine failure and makes an emergency landing, chances are they won't tell you the make and model of the failed engine, only that one failed and that the plane made an emergency landing. So when it comes to shootings, there really is no reason to expect them to provide all of the gun, bullet, ammo data, not because of any sort of gun agenda, but because they don't usually include that stuff on any topic.
Chances are if you find a story written about a shooting that includes all of the salient data that we like, it is done long after the fact and is written by a gun writer, firearms trainer, or in a police-type publication.
Pat Riot
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Hey, I have an idea! Let’s pick this all apart just like the media does without all the facts! What do ya say guys? Sound like fun?
Gimme a break!
Gimme a break!
bdickens
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This obsession with make/ model and caliber of the gun that some here are displaying is simply morbid....
Someone's life was in jeopardy. He used deadly force to defend himself and will live to see another day. That's the real importance here. And it should be sobering.
Someone's life was in jeopardy. He used deadly force to defend himself and will live to see another day. That's the real importance here. And it should be sobering.
Totally agree.
It's along the lines of asking what someone OD'd on. How much did they take. Etc.
I'm happy the person had the option of defending himself. It's sad he had to.
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