Rifle cartridges you dislike for no real reason

CraigC said:

I'm not saying it doesn't exist. Only that the complaining about it seems to far outweigh it. Friends ribbing friends doesn't count.

People must be encountering the frothy 6.5 fanboys places where I don't go. The local range? The gun shop? I shoot on my own property and learned to disregard random gun shop blathering decades ago.



This is my main complaint about the complainers. If you understood why and what-for the 6.5CM was developed, you wouldn't have posted that. The CM was intended to fit the AR10 platform, so the 6.5x55 is a non-starter. Plus its pressure is too low. The .260 has a too slow standard twist. It has a long shoulder and short neck. The 6.5CM was developed because it's easier to introduce a new cartridge than to ramp up the pressure on an old one, or change the twist of a less old one. While they were at it, they made the shoulder shorter and sharper and the neck longer. The 6.5CM is more efficient with the bullet intruding less into the powder space. It's designed as a long range target cartridge for long range target shooters. It does exactly what it was intended to do, shoot flatter than the .300WM with less recoil and blast. It was not intended to replace Dad's `06 as your favorite hunting cartridge. It makes a fine hunting cartridge but in that context, it does little or nothing that existing cartridges don't.

I don't know of a single cartridge that was designed for looks. Not even sure what that means, has to be the strangest complaint yet. Here it is on the far right compared to a bunch of other 6.5's.

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That is the point of the entire thread.


A 6.5 on an AR-10 platform. The .260 has been around for years. AR-10s in .308 or .243 are a barrel change away from .260.
Brass scarce? .243, 7-08, .308 are easily resize. CM is much more intensive.

The CM was developed for a specific purpose, long range benchrest. Marketing hype has claimed everything from laser accuracy from point blank to the moon. Capable of taking any game, at any range, cleanly.

The fun scribes have gotten as bad as sNews media. Jump on the bandwagon and repeat the agenda. Fear of disagreeing or questioning

I quit the fun rags, 20 years ago. I do my own research. I don't shoot over 500 yards. I hunt.
I reload. The .260 fills those needs better than CM.

I don't hate it or any other cartridge. I don't have a need for it. I don't see a need for many cartridges. 100 year old cartridges; .22LR, .22 Savage Hi-Power, .30-06, .45-70. Loaded for use in modern guns, to their full potential, will handle any critter in the world. And are capable of outstanding accuracy. No other cartridge is NEEDED, they are created for SALES of new rifles.

My Dad had A 03A3 .30-06, A 16ga 870, A .22LR. They took care of his every need. Manufacturers would be SOL, if everybody was that say. BTW, that 100 yr old 03A3 shoots 1" groups @200 yards. Sporterized on the 60s, with the original, military trigger and put in a stock I made in Jr High shop class. It shoot 5/8" 5 shot groups @100 yards.
Later, stock was glass bedded and Romney trigger added. Little change on accuracy.


This thread is no different than the discussions of Ford vs Dodge vs Chevy, 9 vs .40 vs .45, Colt vs Glock vs Sig, Coke vs Pepsi vs Dr Pepper, Rona vax or not, or ANY OTHER PERSONAL CHOICE.

CraigC said:

I'm not saying it doesn't exist. Only that the complaining about it seems to far outweigh it. Friends ribbing friends doesn't count.

People must be encountering the frothy 6.5 fanboys places where I don't go. The local range? The gun shop? I shoot on my own property and learned to disregard random gun shop blathering decades ago.



This is my main complaint about the complainers. If you understood why and what-for the 6.5CM was developed, you wouldn't have posted that. The CM was intended to fit the AR10 platform, so the 6.5x55 is a non-starter. Plus its pressure is too low. The .260 has a too slow standard twist. It has a long shoulder and short neck. The 6.5CM was developed because it's easier to introduce a new cartridge than to ramp up the pressure on an old one, or change the twist of a less old one. While they were at it, they made the shoulder shorter and sharper and the neck longer. The 6.5CM is more efficient with the bullet intruding less into the powder space. It's designed as a long range target cartridge for long range target shooters. It does exactly what it was intended to do, shoot flatter than the .300WM with less recoil and blast. It was not intended to replace Dad's `06 as your favorite hunting cartridge. It makes a fine hunting cartridge but in that context, it does little or nothing that existing cartridges don't.

I don't know of a single cartridge that was designed for looks. Not even sure what that means, has to be the strangest complaint yet. Here it is on the far right compared to a bunch of other 6.5's.

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The reason nobody is chambering 6.5x55 should be fairy obvious to most people (low pressure and doesn’t fit with our current standards of long and short action) but many don’t understand the reason for 6.5C over 260 Remington but it becomes obvious with a visible representation. Below is a 308 on the left, a 147gr 6.5 eld in the middle, and a 6.5C on the right. If you load that long of a bullet in a 260 rem, half the bearing surface is past the neck and the ogive of the bullet is almost flush with the case mouth. If you load the bullet out where it should be then the cartridge doesn’t fit in the magazine.

The solution is shorten the case so the bullet fits in the case and the cartridge fits in the magazine, and then blow the shoulder out to get the case capacity back to where you started. A simple solution to a real problem and no hype needed.

Seedy Character said:

The CM was developed for a specific purpose, long range benchrest.

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It has never been a benchrest cartridge. It was made specifically to be a factory loaded cartridge to compete in across the course events like NRA High Power.

In the end... if a cartridge, rifle, car or electronics was manufactured by God, marketed by Jesus Christ and designed by Saint John Browning there would be someone, somewhere that would find fault with it. I rather like it that way. Now if you will excuse me, I have a whole box full of reloaded 45-70 shells and it's time to take my Marlin out to the range.

My buds have more stuff than me, and tend to buy the latest and greatest (Im the lone old school in the bunch).
So when this popped up I had to send it to my Creedies.

^^^^^That’s funny

BreechFace said:

Something tells me the masses of 6.5 Manbun don't know what you are talking about when you say 56k.

I do like the 6.5 Swede-more play on words.

Silly 6.5 guys, don't they know 7mm is where it's at?

I also, am saying in jest. 6.5 Creedmoor is perfectly capable of doing what what the 6.5 Swede's been doing since 1894.

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I'm a little hesitant to print this, as it sounds too perfect to be true, but...

I was on a sailboat crew this morning and one of the guys was the stereotypical yoga pants and man bun type. In light wind we weren't very busy, and the conversation turned toward rifles. Man bun guy immediately started going on about the "six five Creed" and I had an awful - and not totally successful - time holding myself together. I don't think I'm going to get invited back to that boat, so thanks, @BreechFace.

.38 Special said:

I'm a little hesitant to print this, as it sounds too perfect to be true...

I was on a sailboat crew this morning and one of the guys was the stereotypical yoga pants and man bun types. In very light wind we weren't very busy, and the conversation turned toward rifles. Man bun guy immediately started going on about the "six five Creed" and I had an awful - and not totally successful - time holding myself together. I don't think I'm going to get invited back to that boat, so thanks, @BreechFace.

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The best jokes have a semblance of truth to them...

Was he drinking a soy latte?

Couldn't say for sure, but he did have a Starbucks cup and he did announce that he's a vegan, so...

Starbucks caramel apple spice is pretty good.
Hmmm, if I do a rifle video w one of those (hey it is winter)......what would be the correct rifle to accompany such a beverage?

Sold my Savage 99 and my Rem 141.......do have a wool plaid coat though.

Maybe I can borrow a 6.5 off a bud LOL.
Unfortunately that and .243 win (and .44 mag) factory ammo has been gone the last couple of months.