James K2020
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Been looking at these and have read really good reviews. Made by Umarex in Germany under license from Beretta. Anyone have experience or recommend?
Seems like $300 well spent to me.
Seems like $300 well spent to me.
Beretta 92 F Series .22 Conversion Kit
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gc70
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I bought one of the new Umarex kits for my 92A1 in March of 2021 and I am very happy with it.
The kit's slide and barrel are lighter than their centerfire counterparts but function the same. The kit has been extremely reliable, even with standard-velocity ammo and a reduced-power D-spring in my 92A1. The kit is also quite accurate and the sight picture is the same as my 9mm slide. I particularly like the fact that it allows me inexpensive practice with my 92A1 trigger.
As to price, wait for one of Beretta's big discount sales which are about twice a year. I bought my kit ($300) and four 15-round mags ($116), with a $150 discount and free shipping, for a net price of $266 (plus tax).
The kit's slide and barrel are lighter than their centerfire counterparts but function the same. The kit has been extremely reliable, even with standard-velocity ammo and a reduced-power D-spring in my 92A1. The kit is also quite accurate and the sight picture is the same as my 9mm slide. I particularly like the fact that it allows me inexpensive practice with my 92A1 trigger.
As to price, wait for one of Beretta's big discount sales which are about twice a year. I bought my kit ($300) and four 15-round mags ($116), with a $150 discount and free shipping, for a net price of $266 (plus tax).
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and made by a BB gun company..
gc70
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... that owns Walther.and made by a BB gun company..
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I have one of the Beretta M9-22's and its been a great gun. Its accurate and reliable. It doesn't at all feel like a 22 in your hand and is very similar in weight and balance as the 9mm M9 I have.
I have a couple of other 92's as well, and they are all in the same rack in the safe. When grabbing one off the rack, you actually have to pay attention to what it is you grabbed. The 22 is that close.
Beretta/Umarex did a great job on these.
I have a couple of other 92's as well, and they are all in the same rack in the safe. When grabbing one off the rack, you actually have to pay attention to what it is you grabbed. The 22 is that close.
Beretta/Umarex did a great job on these.
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James K2020
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Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear!
I really like my 92 FS and have plenty of 9mm to shoot but like a lot of shooters I've been getting more into .22s lately.
Always fun to have a new configuration to learn as well.
I will keep an eye out for a sale.
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Mizar
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Fiat Group owns 90% of Ferrari, but that fact alone does not stop them from producing mediocre cars branded "Fiat"... Umarex products are of a mediocre quality and always have been.
No. Conversion kit uses magazines that are bigger to fit the 9mm magwell
highlander 5
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I must have an older kit mine has 10 rd mags but I think it was made by Baretta not Umarex. Functions with just about every 22 ammo even some Russian 22 ammo I bought 30+ years ago for less than 2 cents a round.,came in a wooden case 6000 rds in a case
No INOX? I'm out!
Honestly, for $300 I'd look at a second firearm unless I was dedicated to the platform. I was surprised to hear Mas Ayoob say he still carried a 92 compact for self defense. If that's you maybe consider it. Beretta has some good sales throughout the year if you're patient.
Honestly, for $300 I'd look at a second firearm unless I was dedicated to the platform. I was surprised to hear Mas Ayoob say he still carried a 92 compact for self defense. If that's you maybe consider it. Beretta has some good sales throughout the year if you're patient.
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I have one of the old Beretta-made conversions, and one of the newer Umarex products. They both shoot about the same (from a rest, they will use all of the black on a NRA 50 ft target), but the Umarex magazine can be easily loaded without the tool the Beretta conversion requires. I believe the Umarex magazines will be more durable than the Berettas because the ejector is on the Beretta .22 conversion magazine, the way it was on the Walther P38 conversion magazine, and that eventually broke on the Walthers.
I do regularly use the larger and easier to load Umarex magazines in the older Beretta conversion, and they work 100%, seemingly the rim of the top cartridge in the magazine acting as an ejector
Neither of these is match quality. I have both a Nelson and a Marvel conversion for the 1911. With ordinary standard velocity CCI, they will hold the 10 ring on the NRA 50 foot target.
My first pistol was a Walther, and I've bought a lot of their products and been really happy with them. I was not pleased to hear that they had been bought by Umarex, but then I bought one of their top-of-the-line .22 target rifles, a KK500. My daughter teases me that it is a Nerf Gun, but it shoots like a Laser.
The only bad thing I can say about the Umarex conversion (and about the older Beretta conversion) is that a lighter hammer spring, which I usually install to improve centerfire double action trigger pull, will eventually impair ignition when the .22 conversion is on top. Ernest Langdon as developed a number of improvements for the Beretta 92, some being sold by Wilson Combat, some by Langdon's LTT. Langdon developed an improved trigger bar for Wilson, then improved it some more in one he offers. During double action, the trigger bars cause the hammer to arc backward further, so they store up more energy for the same weight hammer spring, and Langdon then can get away with a lighter hammer spring storing up the same amount of energy in the hammer. It works great in Centerfire, especially with Federal primers, but at the lowest spring weights it does not work with the rimfire conversions. The stock Beretta 92 hammer spring is 20 pounds, with a DA trigger pull of about 15 pounds, although there is a DA-only "D" version of the 92 which comes with a 16 pound spring. which will ignite all the .22 rimfire I have tried with it. With a full Langdon trigger bar and other improvements, and a hammer spring of 12 pounds, I can get all Center fire primers to ignite and my DA trigger pull is about 7.5 pounds. ...but most .22 rimfires will not ignite.
I do regularly use the larger and easier to load Umarex magazines in the older Beretta conversion, and they work 100%, seemingly the rim of the top cartridge in the magazine acting as an ejector
Neither of these is match quality. I have both a Nelson and a Marvel conversion for the 1911. With ordinary standard velocity CCI, they will hold the 10 ring on the NRA 50 foot target.
My first pistol was a Walther, and I've bought a lot of their products and been really happy with them. I was not pleased to hear that they had been bought by Umarex, but then I bought one of their top-of-the-line .22 target rifles, a KK500. My daughter teases me that it is a Nerf Gun, but it shoots like a Laser.
The only bad thing I can say about the Umarex conversion (and about the older Beretta conversion) is that a lighter hammer spring, which I usually install to improve centerfire double action trigger pull, will eventually impair ignition when the .22 conversion is on top. Ernest Langdon as developed a number of improvements for the Beretta 92, some being sold by Wilson Combat, some by Langdon's LTT. Langdon developed an improved trigger bar for Wilson, then improved it some more in one he offers. During double action, the trigger bars cause the hammer to arc backward further, so they store up more energy for the same weight hammer spring, and Langdon then can get away with a lighter hammer spring storing up the same amount of energy in the hammer. It works great in Centerfire, especially with Federal primers, but at the lowest spring weights it does not work with the rimfire conversions. The stock Beretta 92 hammer spring is 20 pounds, with a DA trigger pull of about 15 pounds, although there is a DA-only "D" version of the 92 which comes with a 16 pound spring. which will ignite all the .22 rimfire I have tried with it. With a full Langdon trigger bar and other improvements, and a hammer spring of 12 pounds, I can get all Center fire primers to ignite and my DA trigger pull is about 7.5 pounds. ...but most .22 rimfires will not ignite.
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