new boyds stock but front screw to short

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rifle is a remington 700 that came with a synthetic stock. to purty it up and maybe increase the accuracy a bit I got a Boyds classic stock and when I installed it I found the front screw was just a bit to short to catch any threads. It measures 1.115". looking for options to rectify the issue. Are slightly longer screws available? should i use a drill on the bushing to lower it a bit? other options?
 
bihj said:
Boyd's is supposed to be a 'drop in' stock.
The obvious solution would be to contact Boyd's.
If you do, please tell us the outcome.
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it is and the fit is perfect in every way but for the screw I have is @ 1/16" to short. the lug fit alone makes it worth the price. my remington is a gun show purchase and the possibility exists the screw was shortened by previous owner
 
I fit all I my screws. I like using Titanium Action screws & get mine at one place. I’ll purposefully buy them longer and remove excess material. The Action is a tube & has pretty thin material walls. As a result, Actions have only a few threads for the screws to make contact. Depending on the Stock or Chassis used, a screw might only be grabbing 1 or 2 threads. I measure the thread depth and order screws just a bit longer, so every screw engages every bit of the threading available.
 
David Hoback said:
I fit all I my screws. I like using Titanium Action screws & get mine at one place. I’ll purposefully buy them longer and remove excess material. The Action is a tube & has pretty thin material walls. As a result, Actions have only a few threads for the screws to make contact. Depending on the Stock or Chassis used, a screw might only be grabbing 1 or 2 threads. I measure the thread depth and order screws just a bit longer, so every screw engages every bit of the threading available.
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the screws at brownells got bad reviews but I did see good things about bat machine co, might I ask where you get yours?
 
conan32120 said:
the screws at brownells got bad reviews but I did see good things about bat machine co, might I ask where you get yours?
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I get most of my stuff here. But the Chassis & stock I use take either Button Head or Socket Cap screws. The Rem 700 take a specialty head design.. sort of a hybrid countersign/button head screw. They are proprietary.
https://www.ti64.com/product-p/3959.htm

Longer 700 screws are available everywhere.
https://www.ti64.com/product-p/3959.htm
 
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On my Boyd's/700 mating I had to give a little push on the stock to catch the threads. Then it snugged up nice and tight.
 
P89DCSS said:
On my Boyd's/700 mating I had to give a little push on the stock to catch the threads. Then it snugged up nice and tight.
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That means the screw is catching perhaps only 1 thread. Not good. Again, reason I fit mine. I’d recommend getting longer screws. They aren’t expensive.
 
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There should be at least 3 threads worth of opportunity in the action wall, so I shorten my action bolts long enough that they don’t bottom out, but ALMOST do. Absolute “no go” for me if I have to squeeze the stock to get a screw to bite in the threads.
 
David Hoback said:
That means the screw is catching catching perhaps only 1 thread. Not good. Again, reason I fit mine. I’d recommend getting longer screws. They aren’t expensive.
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No. Once the screw caught the threads it tightened up 3-4 turns. There's not a lot of room. A longer screw will bottom out without tightening up.

That's how mine worked out.
 
P89DCSS said:
No. Once the screw caught the threads it tightened up 3-4 turns. There's not a lot of room. A longer screw will bottom out without tightening up.

That's how mine worked out.
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If an R700 stock requires pressure to catch threads, then further DOES engage for 3-4 full turns, you have an exceptionally poorly inlet stock, which is creating pressure points and offering terrible support for the action.
 
Or he has a small interference/extra bit of bedding that could be rectified in five minutes with a hand file. Either one.
 
How many threads of engagement should there be to allow for proper torquing? I would guess equivalent to a little more than one full screw diameter.
 
gpb said:
How many threads of engagement should there be to allow for proper torquing? I would guess equivalent to a little more than one full screw diameter.
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For general rules of thumb, 1-1.5 diameters of the bolt are recommended as thread engagement for fastening. So when we’re only getting ~2.5-3 pitches of the thread into receivers, we’re already compromising.

Only having one full rotation of pitch in the receiver is much like screwing through sheet metal, and I certainly don’t like the holding power implied there.
 
conan32120 said:
rifle is a remington 700 that came with a synthetic stock. to purty it up and maybe increase the accuracy a bit I got a Boyds classic stock and when I installed it I found the front screw was just a bit to short to catch any threads. It measures 1.115". looking for options to rectify the issue. Are slightly longer screws available? should i use a drill on the bushing to lower it a bit? other options?
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I kid you not, I just go to bombgaars or ace and get a longer screw
 
I kid you not, wrt my Boyd's stock for my 700 SPS, a screw with a few more threads than what Boyd's shipped would bottom out.

It does take a little finess and hand work but thankfully I am up to it, lol......
 
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P89DCSS said:
No. Once the screw caught the threads it tightened up 3-4 turns. There's not a lot of room. A longer screw will bottom out without tightening up.

That's how mine worked out.
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That means your stock & Action aren’t fit correctly. There is space between them before the screw catches threading. My Action bottoms out in the Aluminum Chassis BEFORE the screw is started. And when the screw head comes to rest, it stops! With all the threads taken up by the screw. That’s the correct way.
 
P89DCSS said:
I kid you not, wrt my Boyd's stock for my 700 SPS, a screw with a few more threads than what Boyd's shipped would bottom out.

It does take a little finess and hand work but thankfully I am up to it, lol......
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your stock came with screws? all I have are the screws that came with my synthetic stock
 
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