Kidd 10/22: What kind of accuracy from bulk ammo?

Plenty adequate to flip spinners at that range

Even at 4 MOA, that's a 2 inch group at 50 yards or a 1 inch group at 25. Unless your spinners have less than 1-inch faces, you'll be just fine with whatever bulk ammo you got on-hand.

Mini Mags usually shoot pretty good.

It all boils down to what kind of shots they are. If this is their first time you are waisting their time with a 10/22. Give them a single shot with open sights and teach them how to shoot and don't spoil them with unlimited amounts of ammo. Later on in life they will thank you.

I would let them shoot up those thunder duds. I shot about 100rds of them today, 4 of them were almost squibs, so keep an eye on that. Don't recall the last mini mag ftf. If I had one its been a long time.

I built a 10-22 style rifle with Kidd components and a Titan stock. It will shoot 1 moa all day with most reasonable ammo out to 100 yards. On a really calm day it will shoot 1/2 moa out at 100 yards. Using common ammo, it should shoot 1-2 moa at 50 yards. That will feel like it shoots lights out if you’re plinking.

I like mini mags and have tons, but I don’t shoot them in this rifle. I shoot subsonic in this one. I like the mini mags in my BL-22’s and they perform very well.

The young ones will go through a mag quickly with a 10-22. I suggests a lever action or a bolt action to slow them down a bit. Ask me how I know .

I'd stick with the CCI, the Remington is dirty and will sometimes gum up a semi-auto action pretty quick. I like the Remington for revolver day.

gregp74 said:

They get out with their grandpa now and then and they're decent at it. They're 12 and 14 now and have been shooting for a couple years so they've got the basics down. I could let them start with the CZ... I've got the single shot adapter in there at the moment.

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They need to be able to shoot with open sights and once they have that down they can graduate to a scoped rifle. You should be able to tell if they are ready for a semi auto or need a refresher course in a single shot. That's how I learned to shoot and that's how many of us here learned to shoot. We made every single shot count and we never wasted ammo. Good luck.

Mini Mags usually shoot pretty good.

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Yes, they do.

And for most of my personal shooting I find them to be a good balance between price and accuracy. I can usually get 1 MOA with them out to at least 100 yards. I sometimes shoot them past 200 yards with acceptable accuracy. And the price isn't bad. I can do a LITTLE better with match ammo, but it is a lot more expensive.

But for what the OP wants to do even the cheapest bulk ammo will be fine. If the kids start showing potential, it might be a good idea to see how they do with better ammo.

351 WINCHESTER said:

They need to be able to shoot with open sights and once they have that down they can graduate to a scoped rifle. You should be able to tell if they are ready for a semi auto or need a refresher course in a single shot. That's how I learned to shoot and that's how many of us here learned to shoot. We made every single shot count and we never wasted ammo. Good luck.

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I go the other direction. I like to start people with low or no power optics since it's so much easier and let them concentrate on form and trigger pull and the like. Once they can handle the firearm well, then move on to irons if they have any interest in doing so at all.

It's akin to learning to drive an automatic transmission, before learning a stick. Easier to figure out if there's less they have to manage all at once.

I built a 10/22 SBR pocket gun with a Kidd 6” Charger barrel. With a Burris Fastfire 3 red dot, Butler Creek folding stock; with Remington Golden Bullets, it will keep an entire Ruger BX-25 magazine in the “X” ring, off the side of a pickup. It’s crazy accurate for what it is, I can only imagine what a Kidd built gun would do…

It should work great. I don't shoot that bulk stuff in my guns or Mini Mags, My rifles prefer standard velocity CCI for cheaper stuff. I am concerned that some of that ammo won't chamber or cause jams in a match chamber. If it handles it ok, you should be good to go.

gregp74 said:

The nephews are coming over next weekend and I'd like to let them do a little shooting.

We'll probably set up a few paper targets and I've got some of those steel ones that flip around and reset. I don't need extreme precision Probably be shooting at about 20-40 yards.

I'm not real keen on getting out the match grade stuff for the kiddos, but I've got several bulk buckets of the Remington Thunderbolts and enough CCI Mini Mags to last a lifetime. Do you think those would be adequate?

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If they just "go-off" at that range, they should be fine. When the kids "graduate to small targets at 100 yards or so. You may need some target ammo.

gregp74 said:

Kidd 10/22: What kind of accuracy from bulk ammo?

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Following is my breakdown of accuracy listing (From most accurate to least accurate) after capturing every 5/10 shot groups at 50/100 yards shooting over 10,000 rounds out of new 10/22 Collector #3 and T/CR22 with Volquartsen Target Hammer trigger kits - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/real-world-accurizing-22lr-on-the-cheap.898035/

1. CCI Standard Velocity 40 gr LRN (New) - Boxed (Around 1/2")
2. CCI Standard Velocity 40 gr LRN (Old) - Boxed - Consistent group size (Around 1/2" - 3/4")
3. CCI Blazer 40 gr LRN - Boxed - Consistent group size (Around 1/2" - 3/4")
4. Norma Tac-22 40 gr LRN - Boxed - Based on initial testing 1/2"-3/4" groups (Testing to continue)
5. Aguila 40 gr LRN (Eley Prime) - Boxed - Consistent group size (No longer produced)
6. Aguila 40 gr LRN (Aguila Prime, New) - Boxed - Consistent group size (Larger than 1/2" to 3/4")
7. Aguila 40 gr LRN (Aguila Prime, Old) - Boxed - Consistent group size (Larger than 1/2" to 3/4")
8. Aguila 40 gr CPRN (Eley Prime) - Boxed - Consistent group size (No longer produced)
9. Aguila 40 gr CPRN (Aguila Prime) - Boxed - Consistent group size (3/4"-1")
10. Aguila 40 gr LRN Pistol Match - Boxed, Consistent group size around (3/4"-1")
11. Aguila 40 gr CPRN - 250 round Loose Bulk - Based on initial testing sub 1" to 1.25"
12. Aguila 38 gr CPRN - 250 round Loose Bulk - Based on initial testing around 1"
13. Federal Auto Match 40 gr LRN - Loose Bulk - Group size varied
14. Aguila 38 gr CPHP - Boxes - Group size varied
15. Federal Game Shok 40 gr CPRN - Boxed - Fairly consistent group size
16. Federal Field Pack 38 gr CPHP - Loose Bulk - Group size varied
17. Remington Golden Bullet 36 gr CPHP - Loose Bulk - Fairly consistent group size
18. Remington Thunderbolt 40 gr LRN - Loose Bulk - Small to large groups with flyers
19. Armscor 36 gr CPHP - Boxed - Varying group size with flyers
20. Federal Champion 40 gr LRN - Boxed - Group size varied
21. Federal Value 36 gr CPHP 525 Blue Box (Old) - Loose Bulk - Group size varied
22. Federal Value 36 gr CPHP 525 Blue Box (New) - Loose Bulk - Group size varied
23. Federal Value 36 gr CPHP 550 Walmart Red Box (Old) - Loose Bulk - Group size varied
24. Federal Value 36 gr CPHP 550 Walmart Red Box (New) - Loose Bulk - Group size varied
    
25. Winchester XPert 36 gr LRN 500 - Loose Bulk - Group size varied
26. Winchester 36 gr CPHP 555 - Loose Bulk - Group size varied
27. Winchester M22 40 gr CPRN 500 - Loose Bulk - Group size varied with flyers

gregp74 said:

got several bulk buckets of the Remington Thunderbolts and enough CCI Mini Mags to last a lifetime. Do you think those would be adequate?

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I think so.

CCI Mini Mags shoot comparable to CCI SV/Blazers for me and below are comparison 10 shot groups along with Thunderbolt group (10/22 with factory broken-in trigger of 4.5 lbs down from 7.5 lbs around 3000 round count) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...lector-3-break-in.859106/page-3#post-12110978

Some of that "bulk" ammo can surprise you. I would expect it to shoot plenty good enough for what you plan.

GE-Mini-Gun said:

I built a 10/22 SBR pocket gun with a Kidd 6” Charger barrel. With a Burris Fastfire 3 red dot, Butler Creek folding stock; with Remington Golden Bullets, it will keep an entire Ruger BX-25 magazine in the “X” ring, off the side of a pickup. It’s crazy accurate for what it is, I can only imagine what a Kidd built gun would do…

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Lookin to do exactly this to an old Charger... Nice inspirational photograph!

My experiences with them has been theyre just dandy. No problems, accurate from my 10/22.
You might find them just as accurate or even better than "match grade" .22 from a semi auto.