Houston Home Invaded by Police Imposters

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Criminals dressed in body armor and posing as police kicked in the door of a Houston home and opened fire. Quick thinking by a young resident.

"The home intruders “immediately” opened fire toward the residents, Sheriff Ed Gonzalez said in a Nov. 11 news release. One of them shot his partner “most likely inadvertently,” the sheriff said. The wounded man dropped his own gun and fled.

Then one of the sons in the residence picked up the dropped pistol and fired at the two suspects. He fatally struck the man who shot his partner, the sheriff said. The suspect was found dead in the entryway of the home."


Men posing as cops kick down door and open fire on family in Texas home, sheriff says (msn.com)
 
From the article:
"The shooting was believed to be “targeted,” deputies said at the news conference. The intruders’ motive is not yet known and the incident is under investigation."

Contrary to popular belief most home invasions are targeted. Many are domestics where someone is looking for an estranged partner or child they don't have custody of, some are robberies where the home invaders know what they want is in the house and this usually means an inside connection and most are drug dealers ripping off other drug dealers, which is what this one sounds like. Very few are random hits although they do occur.
 
If the address is given, somebody from the area could say which side of the tracks it is on, and give a handle on motive.
The pseudo-cops were certainly inept and the resident a quick thinker.
 
From the article:
"The shooting was believed to be “targeted,” deputies said at the news conference. The intruders’ motive is not yet known and the incident is under investigation."

Contrary to popular belief most home invasions are targeted. Many are domestics where someone is looking for an estranged partner or child they don't have custody of, some are robberies where the home invaders know what they want is in the house and this usually means an inside connection and most are drug dealers ripping off other drug dealers, which is what this one sounds like. Very few are random hits although they do occur.

You nailed it. The vast majority of crime in general, especially violent crime is criminal on criminal. It spills over once in awhile but it really is like two completely different worlds occupying the same time and space.
 
Unless they has level 4 plates, not a real concern but if so, it's a big concern and why some failure to stop drills include shooting to the pelvic area if it's obvious that the chest is armored before going to the head. Sometimes just doing the zipper drill would be more effective especially if closer to the the threat.

Reading the story from more than just the links provided, I'm guessing that this house was targeted for who was dwelling inside and possibly what they may have had inside too.
 
From the article:
"The shooting was believed to be “targeted,” deputies said at the news conference. The intruders’ motive is not yet known and the incident is under investigation."

Contrary to popular belief most home invasions are targeted. Many are domestics where someone is looking for an estranged partner or child they don't have custody of, some are robberies where the home invaders know what they want is in the house and this usually means an inside connection and most are drug dealers ripping off other drug dealers, which is what this one sounds like. Very few are random hits although they do occur.

Seems like friends-of-friends with loose lips and sometimes contractors/service workers sometimes are in on it, too. I know of a couple cases where the homeowner's son hung with a bad crowd or a carpenter saw a fat gun safe, etc while doing a job. Those can be robberies or robberies that turn into home invasion. And of course, I know you're right that sometimes it's over drugs or payback from some other slight (and occasionally the wrong address).

I'm idly curious how good/authentic the "cop costumes" were? It would be expensive to actually get it right down to the correct uniform, armor, electronics, ensignia, bat-belt, etc. I guess maybe a split second of doubt or hesitation might be all the edge they need.
 
Seems like friends-of-friends with loose lips and sometimes contractors/service workers sometimes are in on it,

I was first on the scene of a home invasion robbery years ago. Local businessman was pistol whipped and forced to open the safe he had in his house. No one outside of the family knew of the safe and that he kept a large amount of cash in it because after the depression he didn’t trust banks. We had a suspect but we were never able to make a case.

I'm idly curious how good/authentic the "cop costumes" were? It would be expensive to actually get it right down to the correct uniform, armor, electronics, ensignia, bat-belt, etc. I guess maybe a split second of doubt or hesitation might be all the edge they need.

I don’t think they really had to wear anything more then windbreakers that had POLICE on them. Most warrant service isn’t done by tactical teams unless it’s deemed to be a high risk warrant. Drug warrants are mostly served by plainclothes officers with body armor and maybe a windbreaker marked POLICE. Might have a couple uniformed officers with them.

If you’re going to rip off your rival drug dealer only need enough “costume” to slow down a violent reaction for a few seconds until you gain control.
 
Yeah, just a split-second hesitation is all it takes at times. I live in a small Montana city of 45k or so and am fairly familiar with the raiment of the cops here as well as how they deploy vehicles. My best home invasion prevention technique is being poor and anti-social so no one knows I exist and the ones that do know I don't have anything!:rofl:
 
Dressing as law enforcement is such a good tactic because bad guys know that most people won't resist. Not answering the door is always a good strategy but if people wearing police gear kick the door down saying they have a warrant resisting becomes extremely tricky. Another reason having a really hard home to breach is a good idea.
 
This scenario was all too common down here in south Florida in the late seventies, eighties - and even into the early nineties (those early episodes of Miami Vice were all too real back then...). It got to the point with police impersonators that there was actually a public message from one big department about how to behave out on the road if anyone showing a blue light tried to pull you over (the advice was to slow down but not stop and drive to your local police agency, after calling 911, with whoever it was behind you following along - if they were legit...). We actually had more than one very bad scene where drug robbers hooked up with drug selling robbers - with very bad outcomes (neither side brought drugs or money - both sides were heavily armed and intent on ripping each other off...). The "Miami Special" dope deal - where cops got to respond after all the bloodshed and clean up the mess...

As a result of what was actually going down back then, we made certain to always include a fully uniformed officer on any warrant service or drug raid - and that individual was in a marked vehicle first on the scene to remove any doubt that they were "real cops"... During that time period I had occasion to make contact with a few possible witnesses to a police action that generated an Internal Affairs complaint afterwards... I was in plain clothes at the time - and it wasn't a good neighborhood at all... A middle aged man answered the door at one house and I displayed my I.D. with badge, clipboard in hand and introduced myself and my purpose in calling... He took one look at my badge, then said... "Anyone can get one of those - if you're a cop - show me your gun"... True story, and at that time I was wearing an ankle holster (with a medium sized auto pistol) - but otherwise not showing any sign I was an investigator... Once I raised my cuff and showed the weapon -we got along just fine - but that was Miami back then...

It got so bad that we actually had our SRT (our version of SWAT) participating on any street level warrant service or drug deals (if possible) so that the cops on the scene wouldn't find themselves out-gunned, out-manned, and on the short end of what might be going down.. On one occasion one of our SRT shot down a robber dressed like a SWAT team member (a quick 9mm double tap from a fully suppressed MP5) when the bad guy went for his gun during the takedown - there were four or five robbers dressed as SWAT guys on the scene of an intended dope rip... Our undercover vice guys were posing as dealers making a connection...with our SRT as back-up for the takedown... Unfortunately the offender survived..

We also required any plain clothes officer to put on a raid jacket clearly marked "POLICE" if they ever responded to any in-progress calls - or stay away if they couldn't wear something that identified them as officers... This was done as much for otticers from other jurisdictions (on a really hot call there were times when officers from multiple different police forces might come to the scene...) as well as providing some reassurance for citizens (who tend to freak out when long haired cops in civilian clothes start running around, gun in hand, in their neighborhood...). When I came out of our local Academy there were 26 local police agencies in Dade county (the Miami area) alone.. There are more now - all these years later. Makes for some interesting encounters out on the street...

Of course back in the cocaine cowboy era... there actually were cops who were criminals - some were doing everything from murder on down as sidelines while still on the job.. I'd like to think those days are long over... I've heard that other big cities had similar problems back then as well...
 
From the article:
"The shooting was believed to be “targeted,” deputies said at the news conference. The intruders’ motive is not yet known and the incident is under investigation."

Contrary to popular belief most home invasions are targeted. Many are domestics where someone is looking for an estranged partner or child they don't have custody of, some are robberies where the home invaders know what they want is in the house and this usually means an inside connection and most are drug dealers ripping off other drug dealers, which is what this one sounds like. Very few are random hits although they do occur.

That makes sense to me. Back in the 90's I knew a guy named Frankie. He was an old Outlaw biker that had cleaned up & turned respectable. When he was off the alcohol & drugs he was about as nice a guy as you could ever meet. After a period of staying clean & sober he went back to the dope & the drugs. That time he started going around ripping off high stakes poker games. He got straightened back out & cleaned up again. After talking & negotiating he even got the outlaw club that had a contract out on him to take it off. A few years later he went back again. That time he was going around impersonating a DEA agent robbing drug dealers. They say he beat a young person just about to death. The last I heard he was still in prison.
 
I'm not a criminal and have no reason to think police would kick in my door; so, a door being unexpectedly breached will be assumed to be a home invasion.

That’s great to hear but if the police kicked in your door, it wouldn’t be the first time they did that at the wrong address.

Police admitted their mistake, saying faulty information from adrug informant contributed to the death of John Adams Wednesdaynight. They intended to raid the home next door….

John Adams was watching television when his wife heard poundingon the door. Police claim they identified themselves and worepolice jackets. Loraine Adams said she had no indication the menwere police.

“I thought it was a home invasion. I said ‘Baby, get yourgun!,” she said, sitting amid friends and relatives gathered ather home to cook and prepare for Sunday’s funeral.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475&page=1
 
I feel driveway alarms and perimeter cameras are a benefit and gives you a heads up of visitors/intruders and deer, large dogs and inquisitive squirrels. I originally had a 8 camera system and have since changed over to the small digital cameras that store data to the cloud.
I hope to never have the experience of a home invasion but hope I've prepared enough to give me a little edge.
 
If someone kicks in the door of your home and immediately starts shooting, in that moment, do you care who they are or why they're there?

By the time anyone can get to my door, I already can see who it is but it’s a lot longer from the road to my door than possible in any city home and I have cameras and alerting systems up by the road as well as around the house and shop.

I was just pointing out that police raid homes of people that have done nothing wrong. Google “police raid wrong house”, many, many results. Not all fatal, like the one I linked to above; however, that gentleman is dead because he assumed the police action was considered a home invasion (because it was), doesn’t change the fact that he’s dead and the police officer that killed him, probably got a “you were just doing your job, how could you know they stopped at the wrong house…?”
 
Made me curious about when the homeowner kills an officer, they are out there too.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/texas-no-knock-swat-raid/

I like this one, no knock warrant and

Ebert also said Frederick should have known the intruders were police because there were a dozen or more officers at the scene. But some of Frederick's neighbors dispute this, too. One neighbor told me she saw only two officers immediately after the raid; she said the others showed up only after Shivers went down.

https://reason.com/2008/03/18/another-drug-raid-nightmare/

So, if there are enough people (or you claim there were) that means they are police and not someone else looking to harm you.?
 
That’s great to hear but if the police kicked in your door, it wouldn’t be the first time they did that at the wrong address.



https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475&page=1

These No Knock warrants and administrative failures by LEO's to get the address right, have put home owners into a terrible position. Based on a number of no knock incidents, if the Cops bust into the wrong location, and are fired at, they exterminate whomever is inside. So, your chances of survival of a home invasion may be better with the crooks!
 
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Good luck with that whole kicking in my door thing.
 
Yeah, that might stop Barney Fife but my daughter could Breech that door.

Police wouldn’t have any problem, if they can’t rip it off with the truck or bust it down with a 4 man ram, they would blow it open with a hydraulic explosion.

Like this one is ready to do.
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POLICE wouldn’t have any problem, if they can’t rip it off with the truck or bust it down with a 4 man ram, they would blow it open with a hydraulic explosion.

Key word there.

We're not talking about the police we're talking about Joe the crackhead.
 
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He was talking about a case of mistaken identity where it actually is the police who are busting down your door (or wall or window).

Has he authorized you to speak for him?

Did he tell you that's what he was talking about?

Because it seems to me if that's what he was talking about he would have said that to me himself
 
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