Ward Churchill and Murdering US Officers

johnmcl · Jun 30, 2005

In Portland, OR Ward Churchill, Professor at the University of Colorado said the following at an anti-war rally:

For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who's already been inducted and in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal. But let me ask you this: would you render the same support to someone who hadn't conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit? Conscientious objection removes a given piece of cannon fodder from the fray. Fragging an officer has a much more impactful effect. (Ref Fox News audio clip from the O'Reilly Factor, 29 JUN 05)

What I read is that Ward Churchill is endorsing the murder of US military Officers as an acceptable principle of opposition.

Thoughts?

John

TheGoodLife · Jun 30, 2005

my thoughts

Thoughts?

Pathetic.

mmike87 · Jun 30, 2005

I only hope Ward Churchill and Michael Moore don't marry and have kids with each other.

DirksterG30 · Jun 30, 2005

Isn't Ward Churchill just Michael Moore with a wig and contact lenses?

Rebar · Jun 30, 2005

Ward Churchill is just stating out loud, what most leftists believe but won't say.

longeyes · Jun 30, 2005

Yesterday was a good day to die.

Mad Man · Jun 30, 2005

399th post

Source?

When did he say this?

Does anyone have audio/video of it?

Henry Bowman · Jun 30, 2005

a conscientious objector who's already been inducted and in his combat service in Iraq

Excuse me? Is there a single person in today's U.S. miltary who was drafted?

The worst punishment for this buffoon is to ignore him. However, as a mainstream media hero, we may not be given this option.

MadMan: See original post.

(Ref Fox News audio clip from the O'Reilly Factor, 29 JUN 05)

BostonGeorge · Jun 30, 2005

If Ward Churchill hates this country so much, maybe he should move. I suggest Indonesia or North Korea.

GhostRider66 · Jun 30, 2005

Here's an article with the quotes and a link on that page to the video:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2831958

:banghead:

middy · Jun 30, 2005

That's very close to treason, except he worded it as a rhetorical question. Reading between the lines, we all know what he meant and how he would "support" soldiers who fragged their officers.

He wouldn't be convicted of treason in court, but if it were up to me I'd hang him like a horse thief.

shermacman · Jun 30, 2005

Mad Man:
http://treyjackson.typepad.com/junction/2005/06/video_churchill.html
All kinds of sources listed here, audio, video, transcripts and reactions.

This man should not be fired, silenced, threatened or killed. He should be allowed, nay: encouraged, to continue his tirades.

He is the embodiment of the Left Lunatic Liberals, the mouthpiece of the public Higher Education system, the mirror of the Mainstream Media.

Delmar · Jun 30, 2005

I think it speaks more to the moronic media than it does to this stool specimen of a professor. That they would see fit to broadcast anything this loser has to say confirms my belief the mainstream media is little more than a bunch of pot stirrers.

scottgun · Jun 30, 2005

Ward Churchill was all about the publicity, until it came to light that he plagarized, changed or manufactured the facts of the works he cited, and lied about his ancestry.

He should have taken the buyout when he had the chance, now he is going to be told to leave in disgrace.

P95Carry · Jun 30, 2005

Fragging an officer has a much more impactful effect.

Sounds relatively clear to me! :fire:

TheEgg · Jun 30, 2005

Ward Churchill is just stating out loud, what most leftists believe but won't say.

+1

TC66 · Jun 30, 2005

Actually this scares the hell out of me. I am getting ready to send my kid off to College and more and more of this type of professor is showing up every day. I don't want my kid around that type person.

Combat-wombat · Jun 30, 2005

He wouldn't be convicted of treason in court, but if it were up to me I'd hang him like a horse thief.

The First Amendment gives anyone, from gun rights activists to neo-nazis the right to speak their mind. I don't care what a jackass Ward Churchill is, he has the right to free speech.

P95Carry · Jun 30, 2005

I would never deny he or anyone does not have the right to free speech. But some things said can still have consequences - which is one of the risks when speaking maybe too freely.

We all have to excercize this right with care and respect to others and be aware of the possibility that things can ''backfire''.

scottgun · Jun 30, 2005

The First Amendment gives anyone, from gun rights activists to neo-nazis the right to speak their mind. I don't care what a jackass Ward Churchill is, he has the right to free speech.

He doesn't have free speech in the University setting, just like I don't have free speech on The High Road. We have to abide by the contraints of the forum we are speaking in.

If he wanted to go out on his own and speak his mind, then of course he is free to do so. But to spew his hatred of America while banking 90K a year at a University, isn't protected under the Constitution. The University has the power to set guidelines for what it considers decency.

Jeeper · Jun 30, 2005

Fortunatley this is 100% Wrong

He doesn't have free speech in the University setting, just like I don't have free speech on The High Road. We have to abide by the contraints of the forum we are speaking in.

If he wanted to go out on his own and speak his mind, then of course he is free to do so. But to spew his hatred of America while banking 90K a year at a University, isn't protected under the Constitution. The University has the power to set guidelines for what it considers decency.

You are 100% wrong here. It is a STATE university and not private. There is a HUGE distinction!! The Supreme Court has ruled that a state(ie public) institution cannot fire people for expressing their 1st amemndement right. The High Road is private and thus the 1st doesnt apply. If they could do that then think about the consequences. Most colleges are dominated by liberal faculty. That would mean that any conservative who spoke in opposition to some liberal objective like affirmative action could be canned.

I think he is scum but in his current position he can basically do whatever he wants.

wasrjoe · Jun 30, 2005

Ward who?

El Tejon · Jun 30, 2005

At last the Democratic Party has a running mate for Hillary.

middy · Jun 30, 2005

He wouldn't be convicted of treason in court, but if it were up to me I'd hang him like a horse thief.

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The First Amendment gives anyone, from gun rights activists to neo-nazis the right to speak their mind. I don't care what a jackass Ward Churchill is, he has the right to free speech.

OK. You're right, I must admit.

Good thing it's not up to me.

spacemanspiff · Jun 30, 2005

the 'gentleman' known as W churchill was on bill mahers show a few months back, and refused to apologize for his comments about the 9/11 World Trade Center victims to the family member of one of those victims.
to this guys face he still held the belief that those who worked in the WTC got what they deserved.

so much for the 'peace love and understanding' that so-called progressives blather on and on about.

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