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I would probably be less able to rack it in a tense situation.
IMO, the gun should already be chambered. If not, then you'd have the same issue with a semi (actually worse since they have smaller bolt handles to grasp).

Chris
 
Smurfslayer said:
Alright, now there's 3 of us. What a coincidence - I have 3 magaziness for the PX4... I think you're talking about their 9k guns. I've not heard a lot about them, and what I have heard has been no better than third hand. One of the common threads I personally noticed between the 90 series and 8k series was that the 9mm worked very well, the .40's not as well.

I think it's good to see the "Wundernine" making a comeback, competition improves the breed. I took the PX4 apart to get the excess oil off, and the reassembly is good, and better than the 8k series, but not as simple as some out there. One nice thing about them, no magazine safety.

This gun is going to get a thorough work out...

Ok, ok, ok, you twister my arm. I'll help too

:D
 
mtnbkr said:
IMO, the gun should already be chambered. If not, then you'd have the same issue with a semi (actually worse since they have smaller bolt handles to grasp).

Good point. However, I was thinking about follow-up shots. Still, there's no substitute for practice. If I could work a pump confidently, I'd surely get one of them as their are much more reasonably priced. I really should call Wal-Mart to see if they're clearing any out.
 
KONY said:
... I really should call Wal-Mart to see if they're clearing any out.

I'll try to look out myself too there's one not too far from where I work. If I find out I'll let you know.
 
Golden Coral Restaurant

Didn't somebody mention eating at Golden Coral restaurant?

http://www.courts.state.va.us/opinions/opnscvtx/1050358.txt

"The day after she ate at Golden Corral, Bussey was
still experiencing gastrointestinal disturbance and she went
to the emergency room where she was treated with intravenous
fluids and medications. The next day (two days after eating
at Golden Corral) she went to her treating physician, Dr.
Gaylord, who diagnosed her condition as food poisoning. She
was hospitalized for four days."
:neener:
 
Ahrends:

If you can't get the ones that guy is selling, you can order and receive a set straight from Ahrends in a week for about $66. email is [email protected]

re: golden corral.
We eat there about once a month. The only negative side effect is the tendency to overeat. :eek:
Actually, the one in Manassas is pretty good. It's usually so busy, the food doesn't sit out too long. :)

Shotguns: The Wallyworld in Leesburg had 20 gauge Winchester 1300s for $150. If I didn't already have an 870, I would've bought one. My dad has a 1300 and likes it.

Chris
 
mtnbkr said:
Ahrends:

If you can't get the ones that guy is selling, you can order and receive a set straight from Ahrends in a week for about $66. email is [email protected]

re: golden corral.
We eat there about once a month. The only negative side effect is the tendency to overeat. :eek:
Actually, the one in Manassas is pretty good. It's usually so busy, the food doesn't sit out too long. :)

Shotguns: The Wallyworld in Leesburg had 20 gauge Winchester 1300s for $150. If I didn't already have an 870, I would've bought one. My dad has a 1300 and likes it.

Chris

Ok, well if we all decide to go to GC, just let me know ahead of time so I can break my piggy bank for gas money :D
 
I think someone in the know ought to take us shotgun deprived persons (SDPs) out for some show and tell!
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Well... I've got some maint scheduled for the scatterguns... :eek:

I need a couple weeks for readying...
And I still don't have a 'trap' gun. I've shot clay birds 1 time, and I can see the draw. In fact, I think most golf courses would be far better used if converted to trap ranges :evil:

Kony, you're going to need to actually try to manipulate the slide on a decent pump gun. Notwithstanding the hold, you will have to be able to actually cycle the pump rear, then forward by 3-3.5" or so. On a Semi, loading will be the same, but chambering and readying to fire is something you'll need to investigate too. Either type of double barrel may be easier, but again, this is a "YMMV" thing.

Slate, thanks for the help... Now we've got 4 lined up. It's looking to be a long night for the px4 ...:evil:
 
Smurfslayer said:
Kony, you're going to need to actually try to manipulate the slide on a decent pump gun. Notwithstanding the hold, you will have to be able to actually cycle the pump rear, then forward by 3-3.5" or so. On a Semi, loading will be the same, but chambering and readying to fire is something you'll need to investigate too. Either type of double barrel may be easier, but again, this is a "YMMV" thing.

Yeah, I've got to see if that'll work for me. Looks to me that the semi's chamber rounds similar to my SKS but I may be mistaken.
 
Smurfslayer said:
... Notwithstanding the hold, you will have to be able to actually cycle the pump rear, then forward by 3-3.5" or so. ...

I know this will sound ignorant... if only because it is seen in the movies. But, haven't I seen in the movies (*NO* I don't believe *EVERYTHING* I see in the movies) whereby one holds on to the pump with one hand and then jerks the entire gun in an upwards manner letting inertia actually "pump" the gun? Would this actually work?

Even if it did, somehow I think they might take issue at NRA... now then at blueridge...
 
Sarah Connor

Yes, Sarah Connor might be able to do it while being chased by the Terminator, but if it can be done it is very difficult. First, it could only be done once a shell is fired because the pump action is released from being locked into battery. Otherwise, there is usually a button that has to be pushed to allow the action/pump to be moved rearward. That's how it works on a Remington 870.
 
It's also rough on the gun. If I had to choose between that method and a different gun, I'd get another gun.

Chris
 
Sinsaba said:
I know this will sound ignorant... if only because it is seen in the movies. But, haven't I seen in the movies (*NO* I don't believe *EVERYTHING* I see in the movies) whereby one holds on to the pump with one hand and then jerks the entire gun in an upwards manner letting inertia actually "pump" the gun? Would this actually work?

Even if it did, somehow I think they might take issue at NRA... now then at blueridge...

Good question. This might just be more of than Hollywood gun-handling ala flicking your revolver cylinder.
 
one holds on to the pump with one hand and then jerks the entire gun in an upwards manner letting inertia actually "pump" the gun? Would this actually work?

Yes, if you did it correctly. Just like you can cycle the slide on most semi-auto pistols by hooking the rear slide on your belt. Before anyone gasps in horror, I'm not advocating it, but I do know it's taught in some venues... It *can* be done, and under certain conditions it would be correct, but they are very limited. If you remember correctly, from your movie trivia, that scene was after Sarah was stabbed through the shoulder by the T1K. YMMV.

Concur on testing this method at black lung. Once the barrio shooters figure out what we're doing and try to imitate, we'll get some "low light" practice for sure...:uhoh:
 
KONY said:
Wondering if I should jump on one of those 1300's or wait til I get more info. A buck-fifty sounds pretty nice.
Well, if you do and don't like it, you could probably get your money back out of it AFTER the Wallyworld sale is over. Even if you sold it at a loss, it wouldn't be a large one.

Oh, and the 1300 is pretty smooth from the factory, making it easier to operate. The 870 Express is rougher and takes a few rounds to break in.

Chris
 
For whatever it might be worth... one of the guys up at Blueridge was telling me that on resale you should get your money back. Therefore, I'm thinking that to have a shotgun to own it is a good/ok deal. However, it isn't the deal of a lifetime that some have posted. I'm not going to go out and buy 10 and make a mint.

This puts me squarely on the fence. I'm going to want a shotgun but it isn't as high on my list as other items. What's more, I'm not sure if this is the shotgun I'd want. There are other features I would want that this doesn't have (and am not sure if I could get).

This http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=39663196 is closer to what I think I want.

On the other side... it *IS* affordable.

What to do ... what to do...
 
BTW... Went to WW today and the only shotgun I saw there in the $150 range was a Mossberg Mavrick 12ga Pump and that was what I was talking about in the previous post.
 
Shotgun

I would go with a Mossberg predator, 18-1/2 inch barrel. It is a Mossberg 500 that you can use the stock or pistol grip that is included with it. Later if you want to shoot upland game you only need to buy an additional barrel and interchange it with the 18 inch one. I walked out of the last Chantilly show on the last day for $225.00. The Mossberg 500 has two slide rails instead of one, less chance of binding. Just my opinion. ;)
 
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