Altercation at H.S. Football game....

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So there I was. On a cold and rainy Friday night I, along with my wife and 3 kids went to our local football game. My oldest daughter is 9 and she got to cheer with the varsity during the 3rd qtr. While she is cheering, the rest of us are sitting in a first row seat to watch her. After a few minutes a fight between two high school kids breaks out about 10 ft. away. I didn't move to break it up and I didn't even say anything, I just sat there watching. Well one of the fighters, obviously drunk, is being pulled away by his buddy. This guy does the standard "let go of me, get off me" routine and starts going beserk. He falls into my wife and daughters, ages 5 and 2. I'd seen enough. I grabbed the guy and put him down on the ground, then I told him to "get the hell out of here, now!". Well I take 2 steps back and he tries to lunge at me from the ground. I shoved him with my foot and he goes cartwheeling down a flight of stairs, a rather long flight of stairs.

Now I've got some of the people, all women from what I could see, yelling at me that I went to far. On top of that this guys buddy is 10ft. away and he's yelling about how I "kicked" his buddy down the stairs. I did not speak or respond to anybody, I simply stood there. I did say to my wife "go to the car, I'll meet you there after I speak to the police".


Well 2 cops arrive, 1 goes looking for the now missing cartwheeler, and 1 talks to me. I told him my side and a witness backed me up. I was released.

Grade me. I'm feeling a little regretful.
 
Sounds like he should have been kicked down a flight of stairs repeatedly a long time ago.

hillbilly
 
I cannot grade you, and I cannot judge you. I was not there to face what you faced. Neither did any of the nay sayers in the crowd.

That being said, you should have no regrets. As far all those people who claimed you went to far? Tell 'em to pack sand. If a fighting drunk fell on my wife and kids, and I had an opportunity to kick him down a flight of stairs, I would not hesitate. He obviously was not hurt if he disappeared into the crowd.
 
If more punks were made to experience consequences to their poor behavior, there would be fewer punks.

You didn't shoot him. You and your family went home safe. Sounds fine to me.
 
You did not start it, but you finished it. Good for you.

If more "citizens" refused to tolerate such "behavior", it would occur less and less frequently.

He made a poor choice. You made a good choice. The PD validated your choice. Good for them.

Regrets? Yes. Regret the fact that a growing segment of your fellow citizenry is morally and intellectually deficient. Sorry about that...

You are not alone in that regard. Sorry about that too.

Good job. We need more like you.
 
I think you did the right thing. Measured force. Some would probably have done nothing. Others might have gotten into a full blow fight with him. And still yet others might have pulled on him or even shot him. You didn't. You used just enough force to stop him and send him on his way. Good call.
 
I would have done the same thing ....If you get close to my kids or wife going crazy you are going to be put down .....You did a good job:D
 
Thank you all very much. I had that immediate adrenaline rush followed by the shakes, it was during this state that I began questioning my actions. I'm sure some of you know what I mean.

WARNING TO ALL DRUNK PUNKS- Don't fall on a mans family, especially if that man is a 6'3 240lb former paratrooper.
 
All you had to say was, "fell on 2 and 5 year-old". He didn't apologize. He walked away after you tossed him down the stairs. Ignore the crowd with the stockholm syndrome.
 
Before he fell on your family, you could have created more distance, or put yourself between the combatants and your family. Afterwards, I don't have any heartburn over your actions. As for him going cartwheeling down the steps, I have two things to say:
  • There is a reason why warriors have sought to defend the high ground throughout history.
  • The mental image reminds me of a slinky.
 
Snakeeater. You done good boy!!! Ol' Bronze Bruce would be proud of you.
Sounds as if this punks "training" should have started at home, maybe his Momma and Daddy should have been tossed down a few flights of stairs and their kid would not have so many "social adaptation" problems.
Seriously, No harm,no foul. Ignore the idiots in the crowd.
BC
 
I work security at college football games here in Fayetteville and I have ejected more than my share of drunks from games. What I don't understand is where was the PD when the fight broke out? We always had officers at my high school football games, looking for underage drinking, etc. Ya done good. Just goes to show that sometimes ya gotta take care of business yourself. Too bad some nice officer wasn't close by with a taser. Woulda taught him an even better lesson in manners. :evil:

Good job.
 
Sometimes it's real easy to miss a big play at a game if you are perfectly sober, but to go drunk is to just about miss the whole game(to whatch a game drunk on tv is a whole 'nother story).

Apparrently, the game itself was the last thing on his mind.
 
I remember drunks fighting at football games back in the 70s, too.

Main societal difference between now and then is the divorce rate is
worse and more kids are growing up in daycare.

No one gets involved because they assume it's someone else's "job" to
take care of --gee, where are that kid's parents? LOL, somewhere
else. Probably working overtime to pay for the house and cars that
were really too expensive to afford or having an affair with the kid's
buddies parent. You laugh? Things are that twisted.
 
No one gets involved because they assume it's someone else's "job" to
take care of --gee, where are that kid's parents? LOL, somewhere
else. Probably working overtime to pay for the house and cars that
were really too expensive to afford or having an affair with the kid's
buddies parent. You laugh? Things are that twisted.
Click to expand...

Where I live the parents are on welfare as well as selling dope to pay for the Escolade with tinted windows, hydraulics, spinners, and subs.
 
First, I gotta say you done good. You protected your family, you used sufficient force to keep the attacker away from you (although he ended up falling down the stairs, not your fault) and your family. Sounds like the cops agreed as well.

I used to work private security, and we worked several different high schools football games. At one of these games, myself and a co-worker confronted a kid (16 or 17) that had managed to sneak a flask into the game. Now, I'm still not sure where it came from, but next thing I know he pulled out a little weighted club. We'd already radio'd for additional help because the kid was being belligerent, but when he swung that club at my coworker, it was playtime. I managed to get a kick into his gut and then executed (if i may say so myself) a *beautiful* hip throw to land him flat on his back. As I'm flipping him over to get his hands, I became the bottom of what I swear must have been a literal ton of security and police personnel. Apparently one of my other coworkers came around the corner, saw dummy pull his club, mistook it for a knife at a distance, and summoned the cavalry. *ALL* the cavalry. :scrutiny:
 
I think you did the right thing. It's not like you picked the guy up and intentionally threw him down the stairs. You put him down and gave him an opportunity to get up and leave. He chose to continue the confrontation and falling down the stairs was an unfortunate side effect of his choice of location to be a jerk.
 
Your first move should have been to get your family away from the fight. A man falling on a 2 year old can do serious damage to the child.
 
Thanks for stepping. As someone that worked for a school district for 31 years and found themself in the middle of those situations more times than I can count, it would have been great for some help. Punks do not rule the world.
 
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