Anyone shot a Kahr P45?

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I was just reading a review on this pistol and it sounds pretty interesting. I had been looking at Glock 30's but could never warm up to them . .this looks to be slightly smaller. I'm just curious what people's opinion on this pistol is. Does it feed LSWC?

Thanks in advance,
Dave
 
It shoots fine. Feeds FMJ and JHP just fine, LSWC should feed as well. My trouble is with the trigger. I had multiple failure to reset issues. I tracked it done to the trigger bar drag on the magazine and cocking cam hitting the mag. It's at Kahr now getting fixed. I have ~500 rds through it. It's a soft shooter and I put on a Hoggue Handall Jr rubber grip. The plastic back strap caused a blister on my strong hand after shooting the break in 200 rds.
 
That's good to know. I'd like to hear your opinion when you get it back and get to shoot it some more. I'd drop the $ on it if it's a good gun.

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Dave
 
I'm giving it one more chance and if it doesn't hold up, I'm trading it on a G36.
 
I was bitterly disappointed in my PM9.....

I couldn't even get a round to chamber. Contacted the factory and they suggested the only way to chamber a round in a new pistol was to slingshot it. It worked. After the first 250 rds. or so it has run flawlessly. Eats anything. Accurate too for such a tiny weapon. It's my primary carry weapon.

I still think it sucks a little that manufacturers sell us firearms for premium prices which require a frustrating "break-in" period.
 
kahr seems to be hit or miss on their polymer guns....

ive had a MK9 and a standard K9, both were good guns right out of the box.
 
I have a PM9 and a P45

Both have been perfect for me (PM9, about 400 rounds--P45, about 150 so far).

I have put FMJ, JHPs of various types through both, up to Ranger 127+p+ in the 9, and Ranger 230+p in the 45.

The 14.8 oz PM9 is my "bare-minimum" always CHL. It put my S&W j-frames (even the 340) into early retirement. Works in the pocket of just about anything, including shorts.

The 18 oz P45 is just a bit larger, fits in many-but-not-all pockets and works well IWB. It put several 1911s into early retirement (ducking for cover while donning flame suit).
 
I have a PM9, P9 and P45. No issues with any of them. The P45 shoots just fine (I'm a lousy shot but that isn't the gun's fault, I'm a lousy shot with my Government Model too).

lpl/nc (truth hurts, that's why I like shotguns)
 
kahr seems to be hit or miss on their polymer guns....

OK with a $200 gun, definitely NOT OK with a $650 pistol.

I wanted a P45 real bad when they first announced them, but after handling one I wasn't terribly impressed. I decided to go with the Taurus PT145 MilPro. It is less than 4 ounces heavier, only 1/10" wider, same height and length and I found the 10+1 capacity favorable. It also only cost $283 out the door. I have about 600 rounds through my PT 145, mostly ball (some rather warm handloads, too), and it has run without a hiccup.

If Kahr made an all-steel version of the P45, I would consider it. But IMO, the little Taurus beats the P45 hands-down in almost every category.
 
I had a Kahr P9 that was a PITA to shoot, hit everywhere, recoiled hard and had a crappy trigger....I sold it, got a K40.........it had the same mushy trigger but was far more accurate, decent recoil control, it would have been perfect in 9mm....but for the weight, a G26 rocks the Kahr in accuracy and carry.....did I mention in round count as well?

As for the P45 vs. the G36....the G36 had some quirks in the beginning as well, though Glock has long since worked them out.
 
Reserving judgment...

I just got a Kahr P45, after considering the P40 for a while. When I saw them side by side my fondness for 45ACP outweighed the very slight size difference.
I took the P45, my Glock 30 and Colt Target Combat to the range and went through about 150 rounds; about 75 of them through the P45.
I'm a Glock trigger fan, so I wasn't expecting the Kahr trigger to be a problem. In reality, I really like it.
The feeding was a problem with Wolf ammo, but more of a problem was the failure to fire upon striking the primer. I know it's cheap (I figured to burn it up for the "break in" period: and I agree that a $700 pistol shouldn't require that!), but I've never had that type of failure in my other 45's. Possibly associated with failure to fully return to battery more than several times...
As I said, I'll reserve judgment until I return with better ammo and burn through a couple hundred rounds...
I'm hoping it becomes reliable because I do like the feel, accuracy and trigger.
 
My p45 is a pleasure to shoot, when it shoots:evil:
Out of the box I had about 25% fail to fire, returned on my dime to Kahr, came back and fired fine, but came back with a new problem, the slide lock wont engage most of the time....its back again to Kahr:banghead: , wish me luck
 
I like Kahrs; I have a PM9, P40 and a P45. I like my P45 a lot - it shoots to POA and has a very nice trigger, IMO. I did have a problem with one of the magazines, but Kahr replaced it immediately. The "checkering" on the front strap was a tad sharp, but a few light swipes with my flat file cured that.

I'm happy with mine.

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I've had the P45 since the end of March. I experienced a misfire problem. The gun would not fire on average 6 rounds out of 100. I would cycle the misfires through for a second strike and 4 fo the 6 would fire.

I contacted Kahr Arms about the problem which they requested I send the gun in for repair. The repair time was about 20 days and this gun has been flawless since. I have not had any feeding problems that others had mentioned and feel confident carrying this weapon under a Texas CHL.
 
I recently purchased one of these beauties. I absolutely love the gun. My wife's S&W 637 is getting a trigger job done in anticipation of one of her tactical defense classes, so we were without a small gun for CCW. I had the P45 on layaway and was about halfway through paying for it. She suprised me when she took in her Smith and picked up the Kahr on the way home. I was ecstatic and immediately went and purchased 250 FMJ practice rounds and a 20 rd box of Hydras.

I was really anxious to get the break-in period over with so I could carry this baby so I went down to the local range and went to town. I was very impressed. I am more accurate with this firearm than any other handgun I own save for my FN FiveseveN. The felt recoil was much less than my full sized FNP40 and the Kahr was actually my first .45. I didn't experience FTF with any of the hydra-shocks but did have several FMJ misfires throughout the break in period. After the first 12 shots (the Hydras) I loaded up some generic FMJ (can't remember the name of the box) ammo and had a round fail to seat properly on the 5th round. I also experienced that on a few rounds, the striker hit but didn't fire on the first 150 rounds. I also experienced one stovepipe during this time. Rounds 150-200 were CCI Blazer, the aluminum, non-reloadable type. I experienced the same problems with this ammo, but with less frequency, and no stovepiping. The last 50 rounds were some of the same generic brass FMJ as the first 150 and only had one FTF, the striker hitting the round and it not firing. On all of the ammo that experienced this problem, I refeeded into the mag and it worked the second time around. Admittedly a couple times I limp wristed the gun when my hands started to get tired.

I absolutely love how accurate and soft shooting this gun is, but I hope the last 50 rounds were an indication as to how well the gun will preform in the future. I will have to put another 100 or so into the gun to be sure. So far I love it.

I do have a couple concerns with this gun other than the misfires. I loved the trigger feel overall but it does have sharp edges. Also, with the grip, I was most comfortable shooting with the trigger sitting in the pocket at the joint between the first and second segment of my index finger. Placing the tip of the finger on the trigger caused the gun to jar a little loose in my hands upon firing. At first firing this way (with the trigger on the "joint") was great, but after 150 rounds it really became a problem. With this placement, my joint would strike the bottom of the trigger guard with the recoil and was starting to blister my finger. The same thing happened when I switched to firing from my weak hand. I'm thinking theres some dehorning or something to the trigger to fix this but wouldnt know where to start, as well as not wanting to "ruin" the trigger if it went wrong.

Also, the rest of my handguns other than the Smith snubby all have at least 14 round mags, so you dont reload that often. With the 6 rounders the Kahr has, my thumbs became extremely raw from stuffing 260ish rounds throughout the range session. My last gripe is in the rough edges on the slide serrations and the aggressive checkering. I'm thinking of getting a Hogue slip-on grip for it like my Five-seveN and am contemplating getting the edges smoothed some on the slide serrations.

I mean this to be my primary concealed carry weapon and in this capacity it does terrific. It's a little heavier than the Smith Airweight but carries more rounds (6+1) and with a much more potent caliber. I can also say at this point, I am much more accurate with the Kahr, but it doesn't get the cool laser grips my wife's snubby came with. I can bear without since it's so accurate and easy to shoot. Size wise, it's smaller in somewhat in overall height than the revolver (which I wear almost always in my pocket) but the slide makes the overall demensions a bit bigger than the revolver. For now I have a cheap, open IWB Clip-on Uncle Mike's holster and it works beautifully. I can even have it clipped on right near the fly and the slim profile of the gun doesn't even cause me to print. I LOVE the dimensions of this gun.

I have to admit I was scared at first of how it would recoil, with so much power comming from such a small gun, but the low bore axis and some of the other Kahr features make this an amazing gun. I have no fear of it "accidently" going off becuase of the long trigger pull and can reasonably expect to be able to hit anything with this weapon within a CCW range situation. I do hope though that the gun proves to be as reliable as some claim after the break-in period is over. I will have to go again this weekend and put at least another 100 rounds to make my final call on its reliability. I would suggest anyone get a nice shooting glove though if you plan on shooting alot of rounds through this in one sitting.

Sorry for the long post!
 
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I have both a Kahr PM9 and P45. The PM9 has run flawlessly at 100%. On the other hand the P45 has been not very reliable. It shoots fine when it shoots. The problem is with light primer strikes. Goes back to an issue with the striker and firing spring. I have heard that the polymer Kahrs in 9mm work much more reliably then the 40's and 45's and after my experience I would agree with that.
 
I don't

own a kahr 45 but a long time poster here does and I have read many of his posts. He was a real PM9 fan but has since shelved it in favor of his PM45 kahr, He says it rides in his front pocket with ease and to my knowledge has never had one complaint about it.

My PM9 is pefect, has been that way now since I took it out of the box at least 2 years ago. My K9 has never belched either. They are super handguns, IMO one of the best ccw handguns on the market. Some have given issues, but I have logged alot of posts and going back at least two year plus, it did seem Kahrs had some feed and also barrel issues. They stepped up and took care of it. Alot, IMO of concerns voiced today by potential buyers are concerns they have read way back in the past. Still rest assured you can get a lemon right out of the box, Name me one gun that has never done that. If you love the gun enough to buy it, then IMO give any gun mfg-er at least one chance to make it right, after that, then peddle it and move on. No sin in doing that. I won't carry a gun that I don't feel is reliable. Most don't.

I have found from being on many gun forums and reading and hopefully learning, that take what is written on the inrternet with a "grain" of salt. Some people willhammer a product WHOHAVE NEVER OWNED ONE, just to stir up the board so to say, I called them arsonists. They just like to start fires and watch um burn..
 
Kahr P45, about 350 rounds

Just shot about 150 rounds in the P45 today. Winchester Silver tips, Federal Hydra Shoks, RP Hollow Points?, and ball ammo, all 230 grain, and every one of them shot with no failures. I then fired some 185 grain Winchester ball ammo, and they shot without failures too. Real happy with todays shoot. I had a bunch of FTF's within the 200 round break-in, but since then, it has been a very good shooter. So to all P45 shooters, don't give up on the gun. I was very discouraged to begin with, but kept after it, and it has paid off. I am very happy with it. The only thing I am going to change, is that I am going to a 185, or maybe even a 165 grain round. The corbon 165 +P, or the 185+P for personal defense, and the same in ball ammo for practice. When I fired the 185 ball ammo today, it is much more comfortable to shoot, almost like shooting a 9mm. BUT, it is still a 45. Not a bad thing. I am going to have to spend some money to find out what I like the best. The problem is, I don't know whether the +P will defeat the purpose, to lesson the felt recoil. I hope the +P will provide me the stopping power similar to the 230 grain bullet, but with less recoil??? Anyone with information about what I am talking about, I would appreciate hearing from you. Good shooting.
 
I had multiple failure to reset issues. I tracked it done to the trigger bar drag on the magazine and cocking cam hitting the mag. It's at Kahr now getting fixed.
It's sad to know that Kahr is still letting NEW guns leave the factory with these known issues. I had a pm9 a few years back with that problem along with FTF problems. The funny thing is the Kahr kool-aid drinkers keep saying, "A few years ago some of the pm9s had known issues, but the new ones don't have issues." BS!!! I really can't believe even the new P45s have the same dreaded issues the "lemons" had a few years back...yikes! I know people don't like hearing it over and over again, but I stongly advise people looking to gamble their $750 with Kahr to rethink their purchase.

Forgot to say that if you really want to try a Kahr, you're better off spending around $400 on a CW45. That way if it doesn't work you don't lose as much money. It's basically the same gun, just not as pretty. Just my 2 cents.
 
Kahr cw40

Bought mine very impressed with its size and how well it pulled up.(more natural than my usp-tac and berreta96) Started out trying factory carry loads with the best group 2"@10yds off a bench with most at 3-4" and a few failure-to-feeds. Switching to handloads didn't improve things trying 3 different bullets systematically changing seating depths confident I could (as usual) do much better---nothing. Loads were a middle of the road powder charge focusing on finding a seating depth that shows promise first--which I never did--. All loads were chronographed and monitored for signs of pressure. In other words I never got within a chronographed 100fps of the factory loads in a pistol rated for +P.

While cleaning I noticed a chunk of copper the width of a land in the throat/force cone actually protruding toward centerline of bore and with even closer inspection the throat/forcing cone was smooth from 6-12 O' clock and progressively-rifled from 12-6 O' clock. I don't have a scope but the rest of the bore didn't appear to be much prettier seeing perpendicular galling outside of normal tooling marks. Better still the frame was splitting at the seam in the rear of the mag-well.

Took me 2 days to get through for a return authorization number (gave up after 3 days on my message getting returned-which to their credit it was-about a week later) sent it overnight $54. 11 days after they recieved it I get a call saying the slide, barrel, and frame are "peened" and it will be 400$ some bucks not covered under warranty since I used handloads. When I asked how handloads affected barrel finish I was told He wasn't the one who looked at it and handloads are against policy.

Given the difficulty getting through, the 11 days they had it, and the phone call, I'm thinking mine was just another from the pile they got back and I gave them an easy out by writing "handload" in my note. Helping with the easy out I told them to stick it in their a$$ and keep that fishing weight knowing full well that some tech will just replace the barrel and give it to his wife.

My experience with Kahr. :cuss:
 
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