how I got caught with my pants down

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silverlance

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Well, this is going to be embarrassing, but oh what the hell... I've been hearing a lot of guys talk about how they will fight to defend their ladies, so here's my own experience. Please don't let this become a "I woud do this and that" thread, I just want to put my own experience out there and suggest that others not find themselves in it.

When I was 17 I went with my then GF to a pretty much abandoned park, one of those parks built back when the city was much more spread out but then later abandoned as the population moved away and the park got hemmed in and minimally maintained.

I parked the car on the top of the hill at about 8pm overlooking the city lights and proceeded to get into the back seat with her for social purposes.

About a hour later we woke up to the sound of glass breaking. Someone had just broken open a bottle on the trunk of my car. Five or six guys were raising hell behind us, whooping and throwing glass, probably all drunk.

I tell you, you have never felt more helpless than when you are butt naked, your gf is also butt naked, your in the back seat, and there are five drunken louts surrounding you.

I did the only thing I could. I put my finger to my lips, and we stayed REAAAL quiet for a few minutes. There was no way I could have taken all five of them on, although I might have been able to take down one or two. I was completely unarmed. The rain of glass continued for some time, and then one of the guys took a rock and bounced it off my rear windshield. That really got my heart pounding because I thought they were going to break the glass. I got ready to make a mad dash for the front seat and try to hot-drive out of there, but fortunately that toyota's glass held and the rock just bounced off.

What saved us in the end I think was that my windows were heavily tinted. They were either too drunk or not perceptive enough to notice us hunkered down inside. As soon as they had left the car a decent ways I yanked my trousers on, slid into the drivers seat and lit out of there.

We were both real quiet on the way home, I tried to play it off, but it was obvious that things could have gone badly.

From then on I never did the lover's lane thing again, at least not without myself fully dress in the drivers seat, the engine running (lights out), and armed as best as I can here in CA.

The responsibility should always lie with the criminals, but we have to also try our best to avoid trouble and be prepared for it in case it does come a-looking. further, The rule that CCW carriers (and I wish I coudl get one here in los angeles) need to do their damn best to avoid a fight also holds true for avoiding a mugging.
 
The nutcase form the "Town that Feared Sundown." I believe that he went after couples too...
 
Well, sometimes ya just gotta throw caution (and drawers) to the wind and live.

"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"

Biker
 
This is why my parents always said, "If you want privacy, even though we disagree, just lock the family room door and we'll leave you alone. Don't risk your lives going parking". This was in the late 1970s (1977-1978)...a lot of attacks in those days on "parkers".
 
nothing like enjoying those special times with your lady, and a little extra "excitement" thrown in... both of you survived....it didn't turn into another surprise 9 months later....and a good story for a sunday morning..."full speed ahead...damn the torpedoes"
 
Years ago I had been parking with a girlfriend. And these guys pulled up behind us. Well an MG (yeah she was flexible!) didn't have a back seat so I just pulled off...and they gave chase. CRAP.

I didn't know the area at all so she is telling me turn left/right etc. and she sends me down a dead end road. I drive into this guys driveway and into his side yard about 150 ft. Did a quick powerslide 180 and kill the lights. Guys pull in right behind us (now in front of us) and 3-4 pile out.

I tell my GF to close her eyes tight. I waited until they were almost on top of my car and about 75 feet from their car.

I lit up all the high beams and driving lights and then shut them off. Opened my eyes and still had my night vision. Drove right by them. Like deer in the head lights. They couldn't see crap. Went up a 1/4 mile and pulled into a guys OPEN garage and shut her down.....

They zoomed by about 30 sec later....never saw us.

We went the other way.

Never been so scared up until that point in my life.
 
Well, sometimes ya just gotta throw caution (and drawers) to the wind and live.

"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"

Biker

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Last time I parked in some nice romantic spot with a woman I was armed. Being young isn't an excuse to not be aware of the area, and ready in case bad things happen.

Also, Turner (2nd post), what is Zodiac?
 
I guess I was lucky. I realized that was a bad idea when the cop knocked on the window. :eek:
 
WHAT TROPE SAID

I was home on leave prior to going to viet nam and went to a frat party with a friend. While there, I met a nursing student and we hit it off pretty well. One thing led to another and we wound up in the back seat of my dad's chevy by the river in an inner city park. We were both 'flagrant delecti' when the tap on the window came. The cop kept his flashlight on her the whole time we were trying to get decent (the perv...lol). He let us go after much discussion (and begging). Point is, it could have been a lot worse. Being stupid is no excuse for being unprepared.
 
Biker ... ROTF you do have a way with words ...I was laughing so hard with that torpedo comment my wife thought I was losing it . Fortunately I've only been caught by the police in that kind of circumstance.
 
Be careful of fear-mongering

Son of Sam, Zodiac and Ted Bundy were proven to have killed just over 40 people combined. By comparison, over 200 people died last year in drowning accidents in LA county alone.

You're far more likely to die of heart disease than being murdered...much less by a serial killer.

Culture of fear.
 
Can't you transport a unloaded pistol in a locked case in Ca and elsewhere...?

Open the case... load the gun...

Or unlock the case and have the mag near...

however far you are willing to go....
 
well in CA you better not even smell like you are illegally carrying.

a surefire e2d, a folder, maybe a (no more than 2oz) can of OC.. that's pretty much about it for readily concealable. I didn't want to get into what I do now in the OP because i didn't want it to sound like "here's my tactical solution", but after the incident i started carrying a folder everywhere, and i put a camp axe in the back seat pouch behind my driver's seat. you might laugh at the idea of me fighting off an axe wielding murderer with an axe, but it seemed to me then the best weapon i could put in the cabin and not seem suspicious to cops if they did search my car, because i could always say that i go camping a lot and i use it to chop my firewood.

a friend of mine after the incident started carrying a KATANA in his back seat. I've always thought that wasn't so smart as its very hard to sound "scared and desperate' when you've hacked up your would-be aggressors with a "samurai sword". same goes for machetes, the 3rd world's #1 killer. at least to the media.

i also learned never to park or even stop the car in an untenable position that cannot be exited readily. more than once that has saved my butt, gangsters trying to call me out from the street were replied to by my tailights in the distance.

i'm no yellow bellied coward; i was quite capable of putting up the dukes back then and i still can pack a punch but as i've gotten older, and racked up injuries, i've learned that it's best not to get hurt if you don't absolutely have to.

i do wish that i didn't live in such a crime - prone city (LA) though. back seating with your girl is really quite nice. some poeple would disagree but given a choice between paying $75 for a room and $75 for my back seat in a nice spot overlooking the valley I'd take my back seat any day.


ps: here's a weird note. If you did the whole lover's parking thing in an RV, and you live in that RV more than a little bit, you COULD technically carry a loaded gun during the whole time. in CA the RV that you live in is considered a residence. not sure how that would fly in court, though.
 
You were VERY lucky...and it sounded like you learned the lesson very well.
Good on 'ya!
Let me tell you mine. Wifey ..(GF at the time)...parked on dead end road. Maybe half an hour...two gun shots! VERY VERY close! Lights flashing around, loud voices, people running...I was freaking out! Finally got a look out the window...two guys picking up rabbits! They were out jack lighting rabbits on the neighbor hood streets of East Nashville! No threat to us.
They left and we were about three seconds behind them. Took about an hour for my pulse rate to get back to normal...and about six weeks for her to go parking again! :D
That was about '67
Mark.
 
Years ago I had been parking with a girlfriend. And these guys pulled up behind us. Well an MG (yeah she was flexible!) didn't have a back seat so I just pulled off...and they gave chase. CRAP.

....

They zoomed by about 30 sec later....never saw us.

We went the other way.

Never been so scared up until that point in my life.

So you have utterly no clue what they want? Maybe they wanted to tell you that your girlfriend is a crazed serial killer who baits people by putting out in cars in secluded areas.
 
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