List of obtainable WW2 Rifle list? Pics welcome

I'd love to see this list as well. Could be a good guide for the aspiring collector. I'm by far not an expert and I am sure I'll leave some out but lets see...

US:

-1903 Springfield
-1903A3 rifle (*2)
-1903A4 sniper (*2)
-M1 Garand
-M1C sniper (*2)
-M1D sniper (*2) (Note from JWarren: I don't think the M1D ever saw combat in WWII)
-M1 Carbine
-M1A1 Carbine (paratrooper) (*2)
-Thompson SMG (semi-auto reproduction count?)
-Colt 1911A1
-BAR (nasty expensive semi-auto reproduction available, but don't know if it would count)
-M3A1 Carbine (the Grease Gun, semi replicas available here and there) (*2)
-M1919A4 (*2)
-M1919A6 (*2)
-M1917 (*2)
-M1928 (*2)
-M2HB (semis available for all the belt-feds) (*2)
-US 1941 Johnson Semiautomtic rifle (*3)
-1917 Enfield (*4)


British:

-No4 enfield (*1)
-Sterling SMG (semi-auto reproduction available?)
-Webley Mk VI & IV revolvers (*5) and (*6)
-P14 & M1917 Enfields - Home Guard (*6)
-#1Mk3 Enfield - almost exclusively used at Dunkirk (*6)
-#5Mk1 Enfield - Jungle Carbine (*6)
-Enfield #2 various marks (*6)


German:

-K98 Mauser
-MP40 (dunno if a semi-auto/reproduction available or if counts)
-StG44/MP44 (semi-auto reproduction IS available, but not importable to US) (*5)
-Luger
-P38

-FG42 (I think someone is planning on making a gawd-aweful expensive repro)
-G41 (*1)
-G43/K43 (*1)
-Cz27 (*5)
Hi-Power (*5)


Japanese:

-Arisaka type 38 (*1)
-Arisaka type 99 (*1)
-Type 44 carbine, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd variants (*2)
-Type 38 rifle, carbine, and cavalry carbine (*2)
-Type 99 rifle and long rifle (early, late, and last ditch) (*2)
-Type 2 paratrooper (*2)
-Type 97 sniper (*2)
-Type 99 Naval special (*2)
-Type 99 sniper (*2)



Italian:

-Carcano (*2)

French:

-Mas 36 (*1)
-Lebel (*6)
-Berthier in colonies (*6)



Canadian:

-Long Branch No.4 Enfield (*1)
-Hi-Power (*5)


Australian:

-No1 Mk 3 enfield (*1)


Russian

-MN 91/30 (*1)
-MN m38 (*1)
-MN m44 (*1)
-SVT 38 (*1)
-SVT 40 (*1)
-DP ( semi auto repro) (*1)
-PpSH 43 (semi) (*1)
-ppsh 41 ( semi) (*1)
-T33 pistol (*1)
-M1895 revolver (*1)


Swiss

-K31 ( may not have seen combat, but still around) (*1)
-m94 (*4)
-m96 (*4)


Austrian

-Styer M95 (*1)


China

-Sheng kai shek Mausers ( available from Omega Weapon Systems!) (*1)

North China

-Type 19 (*2)
-Type I (*2)

Finnish:

Converted M91's (*4)
Mosin Nagants -M91, M24, M27, M28, M28/30 (JWarren edit: I have this one! ), M39, M91/30 (*6)
-Lahti L35, Luger 1924, various Rubies, M95 Nagant Revolver (*6)







Key:

(*1) - credit: Hoppy590
(*2) - credit: Ian
(*3)- credit:michaelq83
(*4)- credit: jefnvk
(*5)- Eightball
(*6)- Ash

Please add anything to this list that you can think of, and add countries. I know I missed some.


-- John

Soviet
MN 91/30
MN m38
MN m44
SVT 38
SVT 40
DP ( semi auto repro)
PpSH 43 (semi)
ppsh 41 ( semi)
T33 pistol
M1895 revolver

Swiss
K31 ( may not have seen combat, but still around)

Austrian
Styer M95

Japanese
Arisaka type 38
Arisaka type 99

Australia used a No1 Mk 3 enfield, where england used a No4 enfield. if i understand correctly

EDIT: added. isnt an Mp44 the same as an STG44. MP was used to trick hitler. ALSO. G41, and G43/K43

List of obtainable WW2 Rifle list

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Huh?

That sort of reminds me of that government bureau, the Department of Redundancy Department?

I don't follow you meef.

The OP was asking about what firearms used in WWII are available to the aspiring collector.

Sure there are threads discussing this rifle or that, but I dont' know if there is a thread listing all firearms used in WWII that may be obtainable on various markets.

May be a fun thread to fill out.

-- John

he was just commenting on the wording of the title. it says list twice. hence it is redundant.

thought of some more

France
Mas 36

Canada
Long Branch No.4 Enfield

China
Sheng kai shek Mausers ( available from Omega Weapon Systems!)

and the correct Australian would be a Lithgow arsenal one i believe

I get slow at times Hoppy... thanks for spoon-feeding the idiot.


Adding those to the list up top... thanks


-- John

Wasnt' there a company exploring the options/planning on producing a reproduction of a FG42? I can't remember the company.

I would do unspeakable things for one of those, but alas, I don't think the wife would let me pay the cost I heard those will go for. Something like $7K if I remember correctly.


-- John

The true devoted (possibly brain-damaged ) collector will take that list, and expand is exponentially. You need one of each model from each factory, all different revisions, all special variations, etc.

You can also expand the list from just the basics, too. For example...

Japanese:
Type 44 carbine, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd variants
Type 38 rifle, carbine, and cavalry carbine
Type 99 rifle and long rifle (early, late, and last ditch)
Type 2 paratrooper
Type 97 sniper
Type 99 Naval special
Type 99 sniper
North China Type 19
Type I

I'm sure there's a similar expanded list like this for every other nationality...

And FWIW, the FG-42 company is FG42 Inc, with a web site at www.fg42.us . Retail price is $10k, and they will be shipping out by late summer (the guns have been approved by ATF, and are just waiting on a few details). Don't despair, though - they'll be making 2nd model (stamped) FG-42s next, and those will be a lot cheaper.

Here are a few more off the top of my head...

US:
1903A3 rifle
1903A4 sniper
M1C sniper
M1D sniper
M1A1 Carbine (paratrooper)
M3A1 Carbine (the Grease Gun, semi replicas available here and there)
M1919A4
M1919A6
M1917
M1928
M2HB (semis available for all the belt-feds)

Italy - there were a couple versions of the Carcano used, some full-length and some carbines. I don't know all the models numbers, though. In addition, some were in 6.5, some in 7.35, and some in 8mm.

Lastly, the Germans started out with the MP43, which was updated as the StG44 (with lots of minor variants in between). Same sort of thing with the FG42 - there were something like 7 significant variants, of two major types.

Don't forget the US 1941 Johnson Semiautomtic rifle. They're expensive but around.

Just an FYI: The K31 can certainly be considered a rifle that was used in combat. Switzerland was OFFICIALLY neutral, but that didn't keep the Germans from making little probes and raids on the border. Some of them were regimental sized engagements, and quite a few German aircraft were downed as well.

Finnish:
Converted M91's (cant remember their designation)

Swede:
m94
m96

US:
Johnson 1941
1917 Enfield

Germany had a semi-auto rifle

Yugoslavia had Mauser variants

germanys semi auto's were the
G41 and the G43/K43

The standard rifles of each major country are fairly common.

M1 Garand (US)
SMLE (Brittain)
K98 (Germany)
Arisaka (Japan)
Mosin Nagant (Russia)

The lesser countries still have rifles stateside that arent too hard to find, off the top of my head

Carcano (Italy)
Mas 36 (France)

Jwarren, the STG44/MP44 are the same thing--yes, Marstar makes a semi-auto version that the Canadians can have, but not us; that and an MP38 replica (better made version of MP40, earlier version). And an Mp3008 (crappy wannabe german STEN).

The British had the Webly revolvers.

Germans had the Cz27, Hi-Power
Canadiens also had the Hi-Power.

ANd it's spelled "Carcano".

You might want to add those into your edited revision list.

The Brits:
P14 & M1917 Enfields - Home Guard
#1Mk3 Enfield - almost exclusively used at Dunkirk
#4Mk1 Enfield
#5Mk1 Enfield - Jungle Carbine
Webley Mk VI & IV
Enfield #2 various marks

In addition to mentioned subguns

Finland
Mosin Nagants
M91, M24, M27, M28, M28/30, M39, M91/30
Lahti L35, Luger 1924, various Rubies, M95 Nagant Revolver

France
Lebel
MAS 36
Berthier in colonies

Just to fill out some of the list.

Ash

Thanks for the additions, corrections, and added information!

Revisions have been made. I'll be checking for the next time to revise.


-- John

FWIW JWarren, the Sterling was post-war, but the British did use several Marks of Sten, as well as Lanchesters used by the RN. Of course none of these are "rifles" though.

Our blokes used SMLE No. 1 Mk III and III* rifles, mostly made at Lithgow SAF (though there were a fair few British ones, often FTR'd older ones like one I have. We also had a sniper version, the No 1 Mk III* HT (Heavy barrel, Telescopic sight):


If we are going to include SMGs there were also a few Thompsons early on, replaced by some numbers of Austen guns:



And the far more popular, very reliable Owen Machine Carbine:



There were also a fair number of older rifles pressed into Volunteer Defence Corps (Home Guard) service, including .303 Range Pattern rifles and Martini Cadet rifles in .310 (there was even .310 FMJ ammunition especially made for war service)

There were a few of these built in Australia too, but it is actually a New Zealand design, the Charlton:


There were a couple of thousand built, as an expedient intended for home defence, but there's only a handful left. As you might gather it is actually a Lee Enfield modified to gas-operation and selective fire. The one pictured is a reproduction, but is for sale here

Edited to add, for completeness, that our soldiers used Brens and Vickers guns, and as far as siderams are concerned I think they were mostly Enfield .38 revolvers, perhaps with the odd S&W .38 and maybe a few odds and ends - I've seen a Colt 1911 .455 with RAAF stamps for example.

A LIST?

A few Recommended BOOKS:

U.S. Infantry Weapons of World War II by Bruce N. Canfield

Guns of the Third Reich by John Walter

Military Rifles of Two World Wars by John Walter

Mauser Military Rifles of the World by Robert W. Ball


Just a few examples from the Germans are:

Pre-war variation KAR 98K
Mid-war variation KAR 98K
Late-war variation KAR 98K
FN made 98K
KK Wehrsportsgewerhr Rifle
Czechoslovakia made German Model G33/44 Carbine
Columbian made German Model 29/40
Polish made conversion by Steyr to German Model 29/40
Czechoslovakia made German Model 24(T)
German VK-98 Rifle


and so on.

I have a No.5 Jungle carbine. I just wish I had the stock and buttstock for it I had to use a cheap after market one

The British also used Hi-Powers.

The Japanese also had the:
Nambu Type 14 Pistol
Nambu 94 (aka suicide special) Pistol

China
Sheng kai shek Mausers

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Should be Chiang Kai Shek, aka the Generalissimo.

Hanyang (Gew. 88 copy) is another rifle used by many Chinese forces in WW2. You'll find them at auction sites and personal for sale ads from time to time.