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Mr. Magnum

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what if your favorite pistol/revolver (S&W, Colt, Glock, HK, Steyr, Springfield, Kimber, Para-Ordnance, Ruger, Walther, etc etc. )manufacturer in the USA / Germany / Austria, etc suddenly took a detour and had their firearms be built in China?

(no offense to the people of China.. this is purely an honest curious question about Manufacturing companies who have chosen to give-up pride, dignity and legacy of their company for profit)

Happy & Safe Shooting to all!
 
Generally, I buy based on value. If a chinese gun met my needs at a specific price, I'd buy it. This goes for pretty much everything, not just guns. I've owned too much stuff based on "american pride" that turned out to be crap.
 
Have you shopped in Walmart lately? Is anything made in the U.S. any more? Even the smallest and most insignificant stuff is made in China, and most of their high tech stuff is darned good, fully competitive with Japan.

I sure don't like China's political system, or their aggressive military, but they sure know how to make stuff cheap (forced labor) and sell it to us.

The topper (pun intended) was when the army found out that its first black berets were made in China. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

Jim
 
Mr.Magnum said:
no offense to the people of China.. this is purely an honest curious question about Manufacturing companies who have chosen to give-up pride, dignity and legacy of their company for profit
Last time I checked, profit drives a company, not pride and legacy.

I try to buy 'Made in USA' products but it is not always feasible. My favorite shotgun is my Browning Citori, a Japanese made product that is very well made. If the firearm is made better and is more reasonably priced then I would purchase it from China.
 
If a company in New York could manufacture their product much more cheaply in Nebraska, would you claim that they are showing lack of pride in New York to move their manufacturing to Nebraska? Now that we have a global economy, it makes no sense to seek higher prices simply for pride. All that does is introduce inefficiency and waste into the economy. We have enough of that with the Federal government.
 
As long as they are still quality firearms, why not? I'll take all the Norinco firearms the Canadians are getting right now any day!
 
Like most things made in China it likely looks really good until you try to use it or rely on it then it breaks or wears out quickly.

The Same was likely true of Japan 50 years ago. I have yet to see a quality product from China that is completely reliable unlike my American made Honda or DPMS Panther which are. The third quality goods that most American's buy at Walmart from China are mostly junk. I think people in this country would be amazed by a trip to Japan or Germany where substandard products are not widely accepted.
 
I sure don't like China's political system, or their aggressive military, but they sure know how to make stuff cheap (forced labor) and sell it to us.

The notion that all their cheap exports are made by forced labor is rather baseless. There is an acute labor shortage in coastal regions due to demand. Factories have been raising pay to recruit and keep workers just like they'd do in any capitalist economy. Fierce competition, lack of industrial regulations, and "creative" cost reduction methods have far more to do in keeping their prices low than anything else.
 
Like most things made in China it likely looks really good until you try to use it or rely on it then it breaks or wears out quickly.

I'd say a Norinco MAK-90 runs counter to that statement.


And even though they're relatively new to the road, the Chevy Equinox is powered by a chinese-built 3.4L V6. An American Revolution indeed!
 
I don't know why people seem to think that they can't build stuff of the same quality in China. Does it matter where the machine is located, really?
 
Depends on the quality and build and if it retains it's value, if it's good quality then I don't mind. Those Norinco 1911's I heard are nice and i'm considering purchasing one while they are still cheap.
 
I've bought five Chinese T53 Mosin Nagant's($35/ea), two Chinese "Chiang Kai-Shek" '98 Mauser's($75/ea), A Norinco 1911(~$300 in trade) and a Norinco Model MC-5D SKS($395). If they cloned a Model 10 S&W to same quality of what I have and sold it for $100 I'd buy it too. Guns is guns. If they function well and are cheap they're my kind of guns. I like quality and quantity.
 
I would never knowingly buy a gun made in COMMUNIST China. My company does business there and it drives me nuts. It also drives me nuts how we have conveniently forgotten that they are still COMMUNIST CHINA.
 
I buy enough stuff that's made in China so that I can save a few bucks and be able to afford the better quality guns which are usually American/Western made.
It's not an ideological decision, but at some point enough is enough. :rolleyes:
 
I would never knowingly buy a gun made in COMMUNIST China. My company does business there and it drives me nuts. It also drives me nuts how we have conveniently forgotten that they are still COMMUNIST CHINA.

Oddly enough, the Chinese seem to have forgotten that they're still COMMUNIST, too. At least judging by the way business is booming there.
 
I love how people complain about us doing business with Teh Evil Chicoms! ... but have no problem doing business with places like Massachusetts and New Jersey.

Also, it was trade that brought down the Soviet Empire ... why not use the same thing to bring down Mao's China?
 
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