Henry Warning!!!!-

Chambered or no?

I've heard some things from a store manager or two about at least one other brand shipping across the country, loaded and chambered. Brand shall remain nameless because it is not firsthand information.

What were the four rules again? Don't recall any exceptions like "does not apply if shipped from the factory NIB".

Never assume. Ever.

That is more exciting than finding a toy in your ceral box

Reason I ask is that I'm not sure that a chambered lever gun is drop-safe, depending on the position of the hammer and the gun design. Scary.

What?
Free ammo?
Poper

With the prices of ammo lately, I'd be psyched!

They just need to run a contest.

"Watch for free ammo in with your new gun and WIN! WIN! WIN!"

The Henry is NOT safe to carry with a round chambered. None of the Cowboy style rifles are, because almost all of them lack a physical safety, so the hammer sits on the bolt, which has the firing pin resting on the live round. The Rossi 92's have a safety, but if the safety is disengaged, its 'unsafe.'

Though I think some of the rifles do have a quarter stop, but the instruction manuals say "dont carry chambered, as if dropped the gun may accidentally discharge."

Probably a ploy to get people to buy henry rifles!!

Hopefully there won't be an ND and the person who picks up the rifle follows good SOP and clears the firearm before playin' with it. And when he finds six rounds of ammo in it he can keep it!

The half-cock found on Marlin Levers seems pretty much bulletproof to me-I've tried VERY hard to make the gun fire in that condition.
Of course, no safety should be trusted absolutely.

Henry has a Half Cock, don't know if they have another safety on the large bore models, I know my .22 lever doesn't

Not to sound stupid, but dealers, do people drop guns when looking at them?

do people drop guns when looking at them?

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I'm not a dealer, but I did get a real good deal on a Sig 220 SAS that had been dropped and damaged in the shop.

Fixed up, it was still $250 under list.

Saw a very nice Mauser Broomhandle hit the floor at the gunshop I go to

It would be a real eye-opener for a FFL to get a box in with a bullet hole in the end of it.


-- John

/\/\/\ That would definitely be a scary thing. That'll teach the guys on the loading docks not to throw the packages around.
j/k.

I would think that a gunshop would check the gun before putting it on the shelf or handing it to a potential buyer. I know alot of the rifles on the shelves have bolts removed, are locked back, have the triggers and/or levers zip tied or something.

Matt

The Henry is NOT safe to carry with a round chambered. None of the Cowboy style rifles are, because almost all of them lack a physical safety, so the hammer sits on the bolt, which has the firing pin resting on the live round. The Rossi 92's have a safety, but if the safety is disengaged, its 'unsafe.'

Though I think some of the rifles do have a quarter stop, but the instruction manuals say "dont carry chambered, as if dropped the gun may accidentally discharge."

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If you look in most instruction manuals for long guns there is a warning not to carry a loaded chamber. The half-cock setup isn't any less drop-safe than a gun with a trigger-block manual safety. In fact, it may be moreso because there is much more engagement between the half cock notch and sear than on the hammer and sear engagement surfaces on a gun with a safety that only blocks the trigger.

Back on the main topic, why were the guns loaded like that in the first place? Did they load them up for test firing and accidentally send them out by mistake?

Not to sound stupid, but dealers, do people drop guns when looking at them?

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YES! I had a customer drop a Rem 1100 and bust the stock once!

Neat, buy a firearm and get free ammo!

Well, at least it proves that they generally test fire their guns.
Except for the ones they forget to fire.

Wonder how many times they typically test fire a rifle?

What kind of ammo? I wouldn't want my gun shipped to me with a silver spoon in it's mouth.