Why do people look down on Rugers?

i love ruger and have had the same thought i love my 10-22 and mk-II and am loking forward to buying a p-345 or that neat little .380 thing they made.
and i have run into ruger haters to cant understand it?

i love their revolvers, gp100 and the bearcat .22lr. and even their rifles(mini14 and 10/22)

just the autoloaders are too bulky and heavy to carry.

There is a more verbose version out there, but for some it comes down to Bill Ruger's politics and posturing in concert with the 1994 Crime bill.

I'm a fan of the Ruger 10/22 and the MKII pistol.

I think Bill Ruger's politics had something to do with it, but also part of the problem is many of the auto loading pistols are chunky and not very ergonomic. The revolver, at least to me, seem to share the problem, but not to the same extent. In a world where there are alternatives, making your product asthetically and ergonomically pleasing as well as cost effective has it's benefits.

And some of the P-series guns aren't known for their ergonomics, despite their reputation as being very reliable.

i don't look dow on them that isfor sure, they are well made, robust and reliable, i have owned 3 and the time that i did have an issue with one ruger took care of me and they did it in a very timely manner.

I don't look down on them and I can't say I've every known anyone who had anything really bad to say about them. The worst I hear from people is that some of their autos are ugly and bulky. However even people who say that seem to agree that they are of good quality and a good value for the money.

I've owned many Rugers over the years and they've all been very decent guns, now all I own is a SR9 and Service Six and I don't have any desire to part with either of them. I will admit I'm one of those that is not a fan of their P series autos, but I wouldn't say that they are bad guns, they just don't appeal to me aesthetically.

I haven't heard too many people diss'ing Rugers. Most folks I know think Rugers are solid, well made pistols. I have about six of them, so I'm certainly not one to look down on them.

you gotta remeber to that there are alot of gun snobs out there and if there gun cost more than yours they are better than you. and most people that are like that aren't real " shooters" they own a few firearms and that is it.

i love to challenge those guys at the range with there tricked out guns, i especially like schooling them when iuse my ruger p345 the least expensive handgun that i own but the most accurate.

i really like ruger

my first was a 12" barrel super redhawk 44 mag.

few p series pistols, a .357 mag, i think it was an sp100 or something like that.

of course several 1022s.

1 for me
1 for my bro
1 for my son

would like to get a 2245

politics and posturing in concert with the 1994 Crime bill

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Says it all for me. I still love mine.
Tackdrivers they be, looking down the barrel, the label I can not see.

I don't own any of their handguns, but I'm pleased with my two Ruger rifles. Bolt is not the smoothest, but it would probably work fine operating in serious muck with those clearances...

I don't look down on anyone for owning ANY gun, I look up to them, and say......Brother in Arms, may we never have to employ these plinkers and food gatherers for anything else.

Part of the "diss" on Rugers was that they advertised a lot of their pistols and when the gun-buying public went to the shops to get them... they were all out... for months and months. Like video games, people line up to get the latest version of firearms, and when the company doesn't supply the demand... it gets ugly.

Being on backorder means you might as well be carrying a bag of rocks, and the gun public isn't very forgiving for poor designs or poor customer service. The SR-9's were hyped very loudly, but the company distributed enough of them to satisfy the initial surge of buyers... now, they're on recall... and despite the company "fixing" the problem, it's a hassle to mail off a gun, wait a week, and then make sure somebody is home to receive your gun back from UPS or Fedex.

Luckily, Ruger is an American company, and the shipment to "fix" your SR-9 isn't an international issue, or there would be an even bigger uproar... and a "business situation" for the company... which even the recall is (costly).

I've owned and shot Rugers for lots of years, and for the most part have enjoyed them. They aren't usually "pretty" guns, but solid and perform well... and are just now branching out into the "synthetics" market with their pistols... but I've already seen problems getting their new little .380 LCP at the local shops... so they aren't making the problem better by having hard to get guns advertised.

Ruger didn't make any friends in supporting the wrong political positlions, and operating a company that has it's customers standing on one side of the fence, and the company on the other is a situation. Like anything else where the money is monumental, the voices of the customers gets drowned out from the corporate b-s that flows out to cover their butts on their recalls or non-performance.

I have mixed feelings about the company, because the one pistol I've bought new (at a high retail price) from them is now being recalled, and while I love the gun, it's a pain in the butt to have to deal with the recall. I've got another pistol from Smith and Wesson that's being repaired at their factory right now, so the process of "mail us your gun and we'll fix it" is getting a little old. I'd rather have something solid, like a Browning Hi-Power that's a proven, stable platform than one of the new toys out there with the plastic-man problems, and you'd think that manufacturers would recognize that gun buyers don't need "new" toys... just well made ones. Oh, yes, and "toys" they can find in the case at the gun shop when they go shopping...

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Chris, I am just qouting you to address the general feeling, not so much to address what you in particular said..

And some of the P-series guns aren't known for their ergonomics, despite their reputation as being very reliable

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This is purely subjective. The idea that they are big and clunky is sort of overdone, in my opinion. One of my buddies is always complaining how the Ruger has sharp edges and is so gigantic, but when I actually held it up to his SIG, the apparent sharpness and hugeness of the gun was somewhat lessened. They are big guns, no doubt about it, but I think that many would rather just go with the flow rather than admit that they don't know much about them. For me, I will take my P90 into battle before any single pistol you could name. It's reliable, it's accurate, and with the addition of Hogue wrap-arounds, it's exceeding comfortable.

Not to mention MANY gun owners are guns snobs who look down on anything that doesn't conform to what they believe is the best weapon going. If you don't carry what they do than you must not be too smart. Its sad. I personally think all gun owners and enthusiasts should do much mor eto reach out to each other instead of that nonsense.

I had the opportunity to pick up a Ruger autoloader for $200 with just a bit of rust. I was told it was a police trade-in. After handling it and (with the dealer's permission) dry-firing it, I handed it right back despite the excellent price. The thing was clunky and fat, and had a mediocre trigger at best.

I own one of their .22LR autoloader pistols. The thing would be great if it didn't require witchcraft to take apart and re-assemble.

Their rifles might be okay, but I do not enjoy their pistols.

Part of it may come from Rugers being cheaper than their American competitors, at least they were back in the day. Some people will assume that a lower priced product is inferior to another product that costs more.
When I got my Marlin model 60 (age 16) both my shooting friends told me it was crap because it was cheap. One shot a tube fed Remington .22, the other a Ruger 10/22. After getting out shot a few shooting sessions in a row they both bought scopes to stay competitive. It may have been cheaper, but out of the box it just flat out performed the other two more expensive rifles. Fit and finish wasn't as good, but it shot nice.
Also I must admit Ruger has made some ugly guns, and ugly never helps. Their P-series pistols, and especially their lever action rifles.

Brother in Arms, may we never have to employ these plinkers and food gatherers for anything else.

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Rugers I've Owned

Let's see (1) No.1 Mk1 Target Model,(2) .357 mag Blackhawk,(3).44 mag Super Blackhawk,(4)10/22 Sporter,(5)Mini-14,(6) Mini-30,(7)Mk.II,(8)P89 in 9mm,(9)P90 in .45acp w/Pachmyr grip,(10) P90w/factory grip. Not a clunker in the bunch! As to the P-series trigger,it is much better than the Browning Hi-power I had. BTW,I don't give a rip about the manufacturer's politics as long as he makes a quality product.

The Ruger autos are a little chunky, but I think that's the reasonable price of unsurpassed durability. I don't think I've ever heard of a Ruger KB, and you can get a P95 right now for about $250 or so.

I dunno, I like mine just fine

I may as well draw some fire...

Think of me as the guy running across the open field with the fake .50 caliber rounds following his heels...

Ruger single actions are fine guns. Bill Ruger designed an especially good .22 self-stuffer.

But, in terms of auto pistols, Rugers are a half-step above mediocre. The accuracy may or may not be acceptable. If it is acceptable it isn't really good. And, since the accuracy starts at mediocre it would be a great gun if it were possible to tune it.

But, you can't do standard gunsmithing tuning to Ruger autos. The investment casting they are so proud of eliminates the possibility of slight bending of key parts to improve accuracy or function due to the brittle nature of the investment cast parts.

They break, but don't bend.

You can change POA or POI with a Ruger, but you can't shrink the group size (with the exception of changes in ammo).

I discovered more than a decade ago that you cannot hold a Ruger auto upside down and get through a full mag without a failure. Try laying on your back and shooting over your head and they will not function properly. Very few people shoot upside down laying on their back, but I was training cops at the time. You have to throw everything at them. Although we were much more concerned with where they hit, it became obvious there was some kind of design flaw when none of the Rugers could empty a mag upside down. None of the other autos stuttered due to the position, but every Ruger jammed.

re: the Mini 14, the bolt blew up on mine. When I called Ruger I was told the "lifetime" warranty did not apply. I could "buy" a replacement for dealer cost. Sold the parts for more than the gun was worth.

I have a great deal of respect for the Ruger SA revolvers and the No. 1 rifle. I have no use for .22s so I don't care about the Ruger in that regard.

But, if there are Ruger detractors, I'm sure they have their reasons.

I wouldn't own a Ruger auto long enough to sell it.

Why? Personal experience.

Why? Why are they the cheapest guns of their type in the shop?

My apologies to all the Ruger fans out there. I'll just shoot my Kimbers, SIGs, Colts, S&Ws, etc. You get what you pay for.

I'm not a fan of most Runger autos because the ergonomics don't feel right to me and they are a bit blocky. The Ruger New Vaquero on the other hand is one of my favorite SAAs, taking a second seat only the the VERY pricey Colt, and US Firearm models. I have two Vaqueros and wouldn't part with them, they are very nicely made.

Mainly cuz Old Bill climbed in bed with the Clinton-Gore administration~!

I have several Rugers. Three MK II's, a 10/22 and a Blackhawk. I like all their products except for their centerfire auto pistols.