Hi-Point Pistol?

IMHO, add $100-150 and buy a S&W Sigma or one of the ubiquitous German trade-in Sig P6s. I realize fully that you would be spending 2x the money. But once you hold one of these Hi-Points in your hand, you may reconsider whether that $150 is better left in your pocket or spent on a lighter, smaller, more comfortable and more flexible gun.

The things the Hi-Point have going for it are price and company customer service reputation. Let's say track record is a toss-up since you hear hordes of stories on both sides. However the things it has against it are ergonomics, inadequate capacity for such a large gun, weight, and did I mention ergonomics? Not to mention the fact that you might just as well go to the firing range wearing a tutu as carrying a Hi-Point.

OTOH a $300 S&W Sigma has nearly 2x the capacity, is smaller and far lighter, in a whole different league for comfort and ergonomics, and has at least as good of a customer service track record from the company. Even though you will find your fair share of detractors, few will argue that a 3rd gen Sigma is not a quality pistol that will function reliably, even if they have some chip on their shoulder from the first-gen F's. You may still get some sneers at the range from the good old boy network.

I read one review of Hi-Point C9 where the author said "I love it. For $129 I will get one for every room". I think this is where a Hi-Point really becomes worth having. Not a carry-on-you back-up gun but you can get one to stick in each car, one for your tool box in the garage, on to go in the drawer in your computer desk, one on the shelf in your closet, etc. What I mean is, maybe it's not the best "only pistol I have" kind of gun. But it's certainly viable as a "I left my good pistol in the other room" kind of gun.

BTW I have never shot one and I suspect they shoot just fine and at least the 9mms are probably perfectly reliable. I did seriously consider buying one but ended up with a Sigma (obviously) for the very reasons I posted above. If Hi-Point could make a 10+1 9mm with the dimensions of a G26 at that price point then it'd be a real contender.

I've have, 9 & 45, both function perfectly and have 500 rounds or so through them each. One is in the truck & one is at my shop & I trust them both to go bang every time.

Sorry if I offend anyone but.....Hi-Point.....set your sights low and you'll always be satisfied. lol Spend $100 more and there are plenty of better guns out there that are light years ahead in terms of quality.

I don't have much of an opinion either way on Hi-Point pistols. I do know that I watched a younger guy do some scary-accurate shooting with a .380 hi-point a little while back.

My buddy had a HiPoint that he found at a pawn shop for like 80 bucks or something so he bought it. His was a .380. Frankly I think it was uglier than.......well.........it was just really ugly. But it didn't look like it had been cleaned in about 3 years and we put 300 rounds through it without cleaning it first with no problems at all. Fired every time. So far everything I've ever read about them is that they go bang every time......they're just really ugly.

If budget is your concern, go with the HiPoint... there are very few guns that you can buy NEW, for under $200... The company offers a 'lifetime' service Warranty... so if you have a problem/breakdown, send it back! Always remember, you can have mechanical problems with ANY gun!!!... Regarding home-protection and reliability... shoot it for a couple months and put-in 1000+rnds... if NO problems, FTFs, jam-ups, etc... you have GREAT HOME PROTECTION for under $200!... If NOT, use it for targeting and save your money to eventually trade-up... the M&Ps, XDs, CZs, Rugers, etc... will ALL serve you well if the HiPoint doesn't!! Everyone's gotta start somewhere...I've never owned an HP, but if $200 is your budget, and you need something NOW (can't save) go for it... don't think you can go too wrong!... Good Luck!

Yep....my Hi-Point C9 is also butt-ugly and solidly reliable. I own a lot of other pistols as well, but I can't fault the Hi-Point at all in terms of reliability. It simply goes bang every time. Not a bad hitter either at SD ranges out to 15 yards.
Are there better guns available, sure. I have many better hand guns myself. There's always "something better", no matter how much money you toss at a gun shop owner. But the price is hard to beat for a reliable new 9mm pistol.
And yes, normally the ones bashing Hi-Points are the folks who have never owned nor shot one.
Jack

I don't own, but have shot (I think) all of the Hi-Point guns, except for the .40 Carbine. {Thanks to my informal shooting group, we call ourselves the "Cheap Galoots"}

Not the prettiest arms out there, but they go Bang! on request everytime, or Hi-Point fixes it free. And the put the lead where you aim.

For sub-$250 pistols/carbines, what more can you ask? ? ? ?

I used to own a C9 and a model 995 and really learned to hate the things. So no, not all Hi Point basher are "the folks who have never owned nor shot one."

The C9 has terrible balance, it is top heavy. The safety as noted above does not have a positive feel. For these reason I never found myself wanting to shoot it much. I would be surprised if the thing could make it through 1000 rounds without needing "lifetime warranty" service.

My model 995 carbine had it's firing pin break after about 700 rounds. The firing pin did not appear to have been made out of heat treated steel as it should have been. The stock also flexed on recoil making it more unpleasant to shoot that a Remington 700 in 30 '06. It was fun and accurate but the quality of the construction was horrible.

After having the 995 fixed I sold both of them and put the money towards a Browning Hi Power.

If a Hi Point is all you can afford then I suppose it is okay. It is better than a rock after all.

For the same money I would buy two hi-points instead of one Taurus.

Are you saying the 9mm had more felt recoil than the 30-06? Just wondering.

Tank45 no it wasn't the felt recoil. The Hi Point stock would flex and pinch my cheek where the stock meets the receiver cover. Being pinched in the cheek everytime I pulled the trigger was unpleasant.

I have the Hi-Point 9mm ,45, and a C9. As has already been said previously, bashing usually comes from those who don't own one. Yes they are butt ugly, however they are perfectly functional and reliable guns. For the $150 price tag it can hold it's own with the pricier guns.

Guy trying to sell a 9mm HiPoint on our local classifieds for $250! :banghead:
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=3464259&cat=185&lpid=

I have seen a lot of Hi-Points, lorcins, jenning, etc go for $250+ . They get sold to kids or gangbangers ages 16-20. They also get sold at these prices to convicted felons and shady folks. A lot of people will pay this price if you take cash and dont ask questions.

I too was not a hipoint fan UNTIL I actually bought one for giggles. I did have a problem with the trigger once but customer service was excellent. They practically sent me a new gun and 2 extra mags with a hand written letter explaining the work done/updates made and an apology for having problems with their product. Can't wait for the 45 carbine now!

Mike

That does sound unpleasant mikee. My misunderstanding.

USA made....lifetime, "quick" no questions asked warranty and not just for the original owner.
I know of $2000 guns that don't have a warranty as good.
I've owned three of them, including two 9's, but I was most impressed with the 45. They are no carry guns, mind you, but for what they are..........you can't beat 'em.

I don't own mine anymore because I can afford guns that I am more proud of, but I have high regards for the Hi-Point Firearms Co.
There is a niche in the market for this type of gun........and Hi Point fills it nicely.

My c-9 is an unstoppable instrument of lead-slinging wonder. I think maybe some of the bashers can't stand the thought that they paid $1200 for a tricked out 1911 and still had feeding issues.

I would not, however, try to carry my c-9. The safety, as mentioned, is not conducive to, well, safety.

It's an ultimately reliable HD/truck/glove box/toolbox/etc. handgun.

If you can feel good about the Hi-Point then get it, if not get something else. Me I would get a CZ75B for $400(ish) instead of a Taurus or Hi-Point.

Nothing wrong with the Hi-Point but I would rather not spend thousands of dollars shooting ammo out of a gun I don't feel fantastic about. If I'm not in love with a gun I don't shoot it. Ammo and time are too expensive.

If cost is a major issue and you absolutely cannot save up then your hand is forced and you have to get a Hi-Point. From what I hear they work until they don't at which point Hi-Point will fix it for you.

Hi Point's slide is not steel it is Zinc mixed up with other materials (may be steel).
Slide by itself is not experiencing the pressures of the gas, therefore it is not a stress member. Hi-Point's slide is heavy -- putting that much 'steel'-only into the slide would increase the price alot -- so they chose a compound that is cheaper by provides
the needed tolerances
and functionality.

Hi Point uses a blow-back design, which means that the Barrel is fixed into the frame.
It actually increases accuracy.

The C-9 compensated hi point shoots very very well -- and is precise. The trigger pull is constant from shot to shot. It is single
action.

Hi-Point customer service
is simply first rate.
I had assembled one incorrectly once with a serious problem (the slide was binding into the compensator -- and
the slide broke). They replaced the frame and the slide (essentially a new gun now) with no questions asked.

Hi-Point 9mm compensated
in my experience does NOT like wolf or 115g frangible SellerBellot ammo.

I would recommend to buy it and practice with it. You learn to trust your gun by practicing with it.

I would recommend the 9mm compensated version in this gun.

I've Had One

I gave my son a C-9.

I have an XD-40.

He out-shoots me consistently with the C-9.

It's never had a failure.

My only beef is the 10-round magazine.

I've shot the C-9. I have no complaints.

It's not my first choice, but then I can afford to be a snob.

Do you REALLY want a Hi-Point?

Hi, all. How's everyone? I have been wanting a pistol to keep around the house-the field barrel on my Mossy 88 is pretty cumbersome. I was thinking about buying a hipoint .45, or .40 handgun. I am aware that it has a polymer slide and frame, but I am not a special-ops member, so it is not an issue for me. In terms of reliability, and accuracy, how are they, for the money, and compared to other entry-level pistols, like the ones from Taurus?

Thanks in advance,

-John

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Here's my 2 cents...

I think you need to sit down and give this some thought. If all you're really looking for is something to keep in a safe place for protecting your home from that midnight break-in, then a Hi-Point is cheap insurance and certainly better than a slingshot.

But, in my experience, that's a very rare situation. Most guys who purchase a pistol end up shooting them on a semi-regular basis. And if you're at all like most of us on this forum, you'll quickly tire of the Hi-Point and get a strong urge to get something you'll like better. If that's the case (and only you can know) you won't save any money by getting the Hi-Point, because you'll end up selling it or trading it on a better pistol in the not-too-distant future.

You'll probably do best to just go out and get the gun you really want, instead of settling for an el cheapo and then thinking about the one you should have gotten to begin with.

I agree that most people that bash them have never owned one.

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You hit the nail on the head. Regardless of their low cost Hi Point firearms are not junk guns, they work and are surprisingly accurate.

They are often put in the same catagory of other low cost firearms that are junk guns like, Jennings, Lorcin, RG (Rohm Gunworks), etc. by the so called firearm experts who know absolutley nothing about them because they have no experience with them.

I own 2 Hi Points. The C9 9mm pistol and the 995 9mm carbine. Both are excellent weapons that I'd have no problem with depending on in a self defense situation.

Wake up all of you alleged gun experts. Try a Hi Point before you bash it. :banghead:

Another Hi Point thread? Awesome. We need to let off some steam with these high gas prices. Ugly gun Goes bang every time though. Would I trust my life to it? It beats a knife, or at the very least, you can club somebody to death with that nasty huge slide.