Hi Point?

[mgmorden]

There are people that call both Rugers and Hi Points ugly, but I totally disagree. There are very few ugly guns on this planet IMHO, wish I could adopt them all. You will see me on that hoarders tv show for guns some day

Ruger and Hi Points ARE both ugly, but it's relative. The P-95 is ugly compared to a nice stainless 1911 or a Browning Hi Power, but it still looks how a pistol should. Kinda like a nice gal with a face that's a little off but still has a good body. The Hi Point is downright quasi-modo in comparison .

 

[NoobCannon]

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg101/rkbtaylor/KingofUgly.jpg

I'll just leave this here. [/joke]

in all seriousness, they make pistols with a face only a mother could love. From what I hear though, quality is beyond the price range. Sure, they have problems every now and then, but their warranty is what keeps pistols selling. They certainly don't leave the shelf on their good looks alone.

Heck, my Taurus, another gun-company considered sub-par by many, had a burr on the extractor that caused brass shavings to clog the firing pin channel. Didn't mean it was a bad pistol, and I took care of the problem myself, no biggy. What I'm getting at is, the price and the warranty may get your attention, just don't be so suprised when something happens. Afterall, you do get what you pay for.

for a random-BS gun....I'll admit I've been eyeing one, too....I just can't stomach the looks.

 

[Smoovbiscuit]

mgmorden that is purely opinion. You can say they are heavy and bulky or don't have many features as a fact but IMO Rugers and Hi Points are not ugly.

your comparing a High Point/ Ruger to a nice stainless 1911? I'm flattered

seriously though, your comparing apples and oranges dude.

The Hi Point's rugged design does appeal to me. Call me a chubby chaser if you must

beauty is in the eye of the beholder my friend.

 

[Byrd666]

Already owning a Taurus 66B4 and a CZ 83, my carry weapon, along with my S & W 2 1/2" .357, I'm not really concerned with defense. But a truck gun that can be put in my toolbox or under the seat and not worry about it getting scratched or marred is mostly what I see this weapon being used for. And after watching some of those videos and what they did to that "boat anchor" and it still performing, kinda gives me pause.You know, for under two hundred bucks I can get a weapon that goes bang every time, after the break in period that is pretty much standard for all firearms, I can have as a backup, hiking, or fishing/varmint, or plinking gun that I really don't have to worry much about. That's what I'm thinking. You know, fugly, it DOES grow on ya though, but does the job it was made for.

 

[makarovnik]

I got a chubby too. Who says Hi-Points are ugly?

 

[Cryogaijin]

I started out with a c9. For that matter I also owned a .45 hi point.

The 9mm is a decent gun. It recoils more than my xd45c which weighs less, but I never had a failure, even taking it out to shoot at 40 below. It is a fat bugger, though. With that size grip you can easily move to a doublestack magazine and get half again more capacity. . .

Hrrm. For me: Pros: Cheap, excellent warrantee, reliable.

Cons: Heavier recoil than they should have, harder to clean than many other semi-autos, not as accurate as my other handguns.

Recommendation: The Carbine is considered to be an excellent firearm, and the recoil issue is decreased. Likewise you might look at one of the 7.62x25mm handguns. They're not terribly expensive, and the ammo is even cheaper than 9mm. And they're firebelchingly fun.

 

[ET]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder my friend.

ugly, as well, is in the eye of the beholder, my friend.



...one other aspect that you might want to consider is that the price of the gun, whether it's $150 or $650, is a minuscule part of the overall cost of owning a handgun. The ammo cost will dwarf the initial cost of the gun. Add up the amount that the average shooter spends in a year on ammo for their gun and you will be amazed at how many guns you could have bought with that amount of money. Go ahead and splurge on the gun, even if you have to cut way back on ammo the first year. You will never regret it. Trust me on this one...

 

[rockbug63]

I have owned two of them, the first was 15 years ago and the second is in the safe right now. After you break it in (300rds.) it works. Period. And I can shoot it accurately. Big handed people need to grip it low. The grip is a little small but you can adjust for that. Keep it clean and use a good grease on the ball pin and contact areas and it will surprise you.

 

[group17]

ugly, as well, is in the eye of the beholder, my friend.



...one other aspect that you might want to consider is that the price of the gun, whether it's $150 or $650, is a minuscule part of the overall cost of owning a handgun. The ammo cost will dwarf the initial cost of the gun. Add up the amount that the average shooter spends in a year on ammo for their gun and you will be amazed at how many guns you could have bought with that amount of money. Go ahead and splurge on the gun, even if you have to cut way back on ammo the first year. You will never regret it. Trust me on this one...

You can make them less ugly with a little wood makeover. My 45 looks down right handsome IMO.

 

[yhtomit]

Group17 wrote:

"You can make them less ugly with a little wood makeover. My 45 looks down right handsome IMO."

Ha! That is a cool project Sort of funny, but the craftsmanship looks serious. What kind of wood is that?

 

[group17]

Didn't make them myself so I'm not sure but the guy that made them for me uses rare american and exotic woods. I'm getting him to make some for my CZ next, I like them so much.

 

[Raptor4]

I have a very tight budget, and basically my decision is either buy a hi point or no gun at all.

1. Its a gun that is low money

2. It functions or they would not sell them or people would not buy them.

3. Its not a BBQ gun. Its a gun for the working man.

4. Forget the haters and get it if you want. I can assure you it
will make you happy.

 

[wolfbite]

Hi Group 17
Where did you buy those Grips? Those are beautiful.
I'd like a pair for my C-9 Do they make them for all Hi Point Pistols?
It's amazing how wood grips make a pistol look so much better than plastic.
I never saw custom grips made for a Hi Point before.

 

[RancidSumo]

1. Its a gun that is low money

2. It functions or they would not sell them or people would not buy them.

3. Its not a BBQ gun. Its a gun for the working man.

4. Forget the haters and get it if you want. I can assure you it
will make you happy.

1. True and it is for a reason.

2. Oh, so every product on the market must work otherwise people would have the decency not to make any money selling them to suckers who buy cheap garbage while trusting the manufacturer...

3. Not only is it not a BBQ gun, it is hardly a gun at all and more often than not, you would be better off using the giant slide as a club. It isn't a "working man's gun", it is crap. A Glock or similar firearm is a working mans gun because a working man wouldn't want to waste their hard earned money buying this pile.

4. No you won't be happy, you will regret wasting your money.

 

[SwampWolf]

You can make them less ugly with a little wood makeover. My 45 looks down right handsome IMO.

Nice looking grips for sure but putting lipstick on a pig comes to mind.

 

[mcdonl]

4. No you won't be happy, you will regret wasting your money.

Sorry yours didnt work out for you.

I have had a C9 since 2007 and I am on my second 995 and they are awesome guns, and I have lost count but all of the 9mm I reload goes through these guns and it is in the 5000-6000 range all with lead cast bullets too.

Perspective UPDATE: OK, call it stalking if you want but when I am not sure why someone is thinking/posting the way they do I look at their posting history to get some insight into who they are and how they think. Well, it didnt talk too much digging to see your negative comments on other peoples guns and even to the point of having threads locked. So, pretty much you saying a gun is garbage does not mean too much, because... everyones guns are junk except for yours.

 

[darkfreedom]

I own a 995ts carbine by Hi Point, I have used my friend's C9 by Hi Point. They are both good guns. I am looking for a C9 Comp model right now in fact, to go along with the 995.

I will admit I am an active member on the hi point forums, and I would suggest you check it out there too. Lots of range reports on HP and other useful info to help you make the best informed choice you can about HP and if you want one.

As for the "haters" here, honestly how many of you have actually used a C9 before saying they are crap or whatever else you are saying. It is proven that most people who have bad things to say about Hi Point firearms have never used them, they all hear things from other people, who also never used one...

 

[Deanimator]

I don't think he was speaking of criminal technique. I think Deanimator meant that if you ever had to use a firearm for home defense the likelihood of ever getting the gun back from the police is low.

That's exactly my point, although getting it back is purely a function of local law and obedience of it by the police.

I wouldn't trust my life to a Hi Point, but assuming you did, it's not a gun you'd cry over not seeing for months or years during a trial and subsequent appeals.

 

[mgmorden]

As for the "haters" here, honestly how many of you have actually used a C9 before saying they are crap or whatever else you are saying. It is proven that most people who have bad things to say about Hi Point firearms have never used them, they all hear things from other people, who also never used one...

I've shot the C9, and the .40S&W version - and actually the 9mm carbine before too. I still stand by my opinion that though they're serviceable for some purposes, overall I think that for the money most people would be better served with a used CZ-82, or if they just must have new, a Ruger P95.

 

[darkfreedom]

Since you have fired them mgmorden, I recognize your opinion as valid.
Everyone has a favorite or at least a preference to a type, style or brand. I just hate to see so many people trash a brand or a specific model based on a story they heard about their friends' brother's wife's hairdresser's uncle and the bad experience he had...

I would never say anything bad about any gun unless I have either experienced it personally, or witnessed it first hand. I will however share my opinion when I feel it is valid to do so.

 

[Deanimator]

Since you have fired them mgmorden, I recognize your opinion as valid.
Everyone has a favorite or at least a preference to a type, style or brand. I just hate to see so many people trash a brand or a specific model based on a story they heard about their friends' brother's wife's hairdresser's uncle and the bad experience he had...

I would never say anything bad about any gun unless I have either experienced it personally, or witnessed it first hand. I will however share my opinion when I feel it is valid to do so.

I personally witnessed a club member with TWO of them, neither of which was able to fire more than two consecutive rounds without a misfeed.

Any blowback handgun chambered for anything more powerful than 9x18mm is a lost cause. Almost no one makes one, and every other one has been a wretched failure.

You couldn't GIVE me a Hi Point.

 

[mcdonl]

I personally witnessed a club member with TWO of them, neither of which was able to fire more than two consecutive rounds without a misfeed.

Sounds like he was limp wristing.

Any blowback handgun chambered for anything more powerful than 9x18mm is a lost cause. Almost no one makes one, and every other one has been a wretched failure.

I dont get it? The gun is widly popular, guys like me who own many guns have had terrific luck with them... everyone who has never even shot one raves about the tech support and no questions asked replacement and repair... how do you get wretched failure from this? Is this the gun for everyone, no way. Like pocket pistols. I tried them, hate them. Will never own another. But I would not call them a wretched failure.

You couldn't GIVE me a Hi Point.

Ah, ok... personal hatred for the firearm. That explains it.

When I see guys who are moderators on one of the most well respected firearm forums in the world give the Hi Point a serious test in a competition environment and pass it with (gently flying colors?) I have a hard time taking people seriously who consider them total junk and still spout about "The club member" who jammed every other round.

I tend to believe there are either misunderstandings or issues with the operator of the gun because many people on here who I respect and have other terrific guns have not had experiences anything like that.

 

[Rocketmedic]

I have a Hi-Point JHP 45 that ran 1,200 or so flawless rounds before an extractor failure. I think it's a broken spring or chipped claw. Great gun though, and once I send it in, it'll come back nicely. I'd buy another one if I didn't have a 1911. Great company, great gun.

I also have an issued new Beretta M9. It's...not stellar. I'd rather take a stick to war, to tell the truth.

 

[darkfreedom]

+1 mcdonl

This is what i was saying. yes he may have seen this first hand, but instead of considering how the member was handling the firearm, assumption is made the firearm was surely to blame.

Deanimator, I will personally help you rid your club of these horrific Hi Point guns. Gather up all of them that you can find and ship them to me, I will be sure they are taken care of properly.

 

[Wedge]

Congrats on your P95 purchase.

Guys, you do realize that he already bought a Ruger? post#48 http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=7125126&postcount=48

As far as the HP goes, I have nicer guns, but have thought about getting a HP 9mm just because...but it is low on my list.