Standoff distance from "Gun Free Zones"

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OK, Being in a "Gun Free Zone" unarmed is not a good place to be when things go bad, but what about being next to one? How big is the danger zone around a "Gun Free Zone"? Both of the location in the below articles were allowed concealed carry locations. The areas next to them were "off limit" to concealed carry.

Note: in SC cwp not valid in church without permission and mall has no weapon policy. ( SC law SECTION 23-31-215,M,9 and SECTION 23-31-220, http://www.citadelmall.net/shop/citadel.nsf/security)

There were two articles in "The State" www.thestate.com paper today that brought this to mind. first - Woman attached next to church. Second - Shooting at mall.

http://www.thestate.com/local/story/580246.html
By RICK BRUNDRETT - [email protected]
A woman told Columbia police she was raped Tuesday night outside St. Peter’s Catholic Church on Assembly Street — the second reported rape in the downtown area in the last two months.
Columbia police Capt. Thomas Dodson said Wednesday the two incidents don’t appear to be related.
“The suspect descriptions are completely different, as are the methods,” Dodson said.
Another woman reported she was raped Sept. 7 in an alley across from the Tapp’s building on Blanding Street where she lived — several blocks from St. Peter’s church.
No arrests have been made in either incident, Dodson said.
The woman in Tuesday’s incident, whom police did not identify, is associated with the church and is older than the woman in the September incident, Dodson said, though he declined to discuss more specifics.
Contacted Wednesday, St. Peter’s deacon John Stetar referred all questions to church pastor Monsignor Leigh Lehocky, and efforts to contact him were unsuccessful.
The woman gave this account of Tuesday’s attack, according to a police incident report:
She was walking toward St. Peter’s at 1529 Assembly St. about 6:30 p.m. when she noticed a man following her. She entered the church courtyard area from Assembly Street and continued west toward the church parking lot.
As she approached the rear of the chapel, the suspect confronted her. After she was raped, the suspect walked her north toward Taylor Street, where she stopped and he continued walking across the street through the parking lot of the U.S. post office.
After the September incident, city officials said they would reopen a police substation at Assembly and Taylor, though it was not immediately known if it was operating Tuesday night.
City officers interviewed the woman in Tuesday’s incident at Palmetto Health Richland, the police report said.
The woman described her assailant as black, age 24 to 26, 5 foot 8, 170 pounds, clean shaven, wearing a white hooded sweatshirt and dark pants.
The attacker in the Sept. 7 incident was described as black, age 23 to 30, 6 foot 4, 220 pounds, with a full beard, wearing a dark cap, a baggy black T-shirt and jeans.
In that incident, the woman said her attacker raped her at knifepoint about 9 p.m. and stole a ring.
In Tuesday’s incident, no weapon was used, and nothing was reported stolen, according to the police report.
Anyone with information on either incident is asked to contact city police at (803) 545-3500 or Crime Stoppers at (888) CRIME-SC.
Reach Brundrett at (803) 771-8484.

http://www.thestate.com/breaking/story/580188.html
One killed, 1 injured in Charleston mall shooting
The Associated Press
CHARLESTON, S.C. -- One man was killed and another was wounded in a shooting at a Charleston mall.
Charleston police spokesman Charles Francis says a law enforcement officer who happened to be at Citadel Mall on Wednesday afternoon shot one of the men.
Francis told The Post and Courier of Charleston that three men walked out of the mall and one of them shot one of the other men. Francis says the officer then shot the gunman.
Charleston County Chief Deputy Coroner Judy Koelpin says 27-year-old Begondae Moore of Goose Creek died at the Medical University Hospital.
Francis says the other man was shot in the leg. His name was not released.
State Law Enforcement Division spokeswoman Kathryn Richardson says the officer involved was a federal agent. It was unclear if Moore was shot by the agent.
Information from: The Post and Courier, http://www.charleston.net
 
aw man! I thought I was gonna just get in a quick jab before better people weighed in on the topic.

semi-aimed fire with pistols, for an unskilled individual, possibly in a great hurry to exit, I'd say about 5 yards if they're shooting for you specifically.

how far you'd have to be to not catch a stray bullet is a question of physics. My box of .22 here says 2.5 miles :)

The point is moot because a) baddies don't respect gun free zones and b) even if they did there's nothing magical about legislating an area, for our cause or theirs.
 
1000 yards, same as schools.

The school rule got struck down ages ago as being too vague and unenforceable.

Carry on private property with "no gun" policies is a civil infraction. Typically the charge is "civil contempt" -- which is not going to get "pressed" unless you're being contemptable. Civil Contempt is like a traffic ticket. And "contempt" needs to be proved, which if you're behaving yourself won't even go to court.

I don't know about states with laws against carry in church. What are they thinking?
 
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