.22lr ammo for 100y shooting

ive got no 75 yard range, skip from 50 to 100. iron sights so no scope compensating for drop. what drops the least that i can shoot nice at 100 ys with

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You are making the assumption that a fast bullet will somehow group better at 100 yards. For cheap ammo like Stingers, this assumption is false.

I am just getting into small bore and have a few data points.

At 100 yards cheap Armscor HV http://www.armscor.com.ph/rimfire.htm shot to the same point of impact as Wolf Extra Match with 2.5 MOA less elevation. Wolf is standard velocity. The Armscor chron's exactly 1200 fps in my match rifle. Wolf Match is too expensive to waste chronographing.

Wolf Extra Match required 7.75 MOA to shoot to center of target when going from 50 yards and 100 yards.

The chamber of a .22lr is extremely critical for accuracy. A concentric tight chamber will produce good groups on a good barrel, a standard commerical chamber, which is as loose as a goose, won't shoot regardless of the barrel blank.

By the way, it took 27.75 MOA of sight adjustment, from 50 yards, to shoot in the middle of the 200 yard small bore target.

That is about equal to the adjustment you have to put on a 308 when going from 600 yards to 1000 yards.

The short answer is the fastest bullet you can find will drop the least. Velocities are listed on the boxes and websites.

The long answer is that between the short bearing surface of the lightest bullets, the fact that the fastest bullets are given an anti-leading coating of copper via tumbling, which dings them up pretty badly, and the fact that most if not all of these bullets will be disturbed by going from supersonic to subsonic while in flight, the bullets with the least drop are probably not the ones that will give best results on long range targets.

Have fun!

At approximately 75 yards a high velocity 22LR will drop below supersonic and disturb it's stability. So if your shooting past that range for accurracy your better off with a 40gr standard or subsonic velocity cartridge and the target match ammo. Also read the stuff at www.RimfireCentral.com

Its my understanding that standard velocity .22 ammo will also be less affected by wind drift because it doesn't make the transition from supersonic to subsonic. Since bullet drop is a constant it can be easily compensated for. Windage, being vairable, is more difficult to compensate for, so a standard velocity .22 is usually more accurate at 100 yds. Having said that, I practice at 100 yds with whatever I can get on sale at walmart.

They ALL drop. You must adjust your sights by 7 MOA or more to get from 50 - 100 yards. Try different brands and see which is the most accurate. Wolf Match Target is good and not too expensive, I have some Aquila Super Extra STANDARD VELOCITY that does pretty well.

Seems like the OP was asking about bullet drop, not accuracy. The high speed ammo will drop less than the slower standard velocity or target ammo. The standard velocity and target ammo (sub sonic) will almost always be more accurate at that range.

Depends on what your goal is. If you are shooting at watermelons, the high velocity ammo will work great and the reduced drop might make them easier to hit with your iron sights (less holdover). If you scope your rifle (or use target quality aperture sights) and want to shoot groups or for score at 100 yards, you need to go for the slower speed target ammo.

Try some CCI standard velocity.
I get good groups at 50 and 100 yards with it.

the fastest bullets now, are Aguila, hyper velocity, both in solid and hollow point. they are fast, but not fastest. the fastest 22lr round, not with the longer stinger case, is the Aguila Interceptor. it also uses a full 40 grain round, not a 30 grainer, like the stinger. and let me tell you something, you know darn full well when you shoot one of these; you feel like you just got recoil from a 22 hornet. it goes a full 1450 fps from the muzzle, some guys have clocked 1500fps. I have shot a lot of this round, and through large pieces of wood;
I shot it through a 6x6 piece of wood, and it absolutely blew out the backside!!!
It was very impressive.
However the other dude has a point as well, the standard velocity or subsonic loses speed a lot slower, than a fast round does. Those fast rounds will lose 400 fps or more, out to 100 yds, a 22 mag will lose almost fully half it's speed out to 100 yds. a subsonic 22, will only lose about 200 -max 300 fps out to 100 yds. and since they start out slow allready, if your round only loses 200 fps, then the drop between 50 and 100 yds is very little.
That being said, a standard velocity, or subsonic round is going to rainbow out there anyway!!!!! a big 'ol rainbow.
So then, go with the Aguila fastbacks, and have a big blast!!!!

I usually have about 6 - 8 inches of drop from 25 to 100 yards with rem subsonic .22.

They will all drop substantially.

100 yds

I agree,std ammo for long range rimfire.I'm fortunate to have a case of Fed olympic gold match at 1080 fps.My Kimber really likes this stuff,and will hold the 10 ring off the bench. For cheap practice ammo,you just have to find what the gun likes,and buy buy buy all of the lot you can get.

Try Some CCI Velocitors . . .

Because these 40 grain hollow-points never fail to amaze and please me at 100 yards distance. cliffy

Actually, the wind effects subsonics less than the high velocity stuff. The is a phenomenon unique to the .22 game and has something to due with the rate of velocity loss and the crossing of the sound barrier. I have read about this in target shooting articles for decades and it still seems strange to me. This phenomenon is not true for bullets that stay above the speed of sound during their entire flight, like most centerfires do.

As Jim Carmichel states in his Book of the Rifle:

"An interesting phenomenon peculiar to the .22 rimfire is that, unlike high-velocity centerfire bullets, which suffer less effect as velocity is increased, standard-velocity .22 rimfire bullets are less blown off course by the wind than are high-velocity loads. This unique trait is due the sharp increase in air resistance which occurs at velocities near the speed of sound. .............. Thus, low velocity loads are affected about 1/3 less by the wind than high-velocity .22s. That is why .22 match-grade ammo is always loaded to low velocity levels."

For cheap practice ammo,you just have to find what the gun likes,and buy buy buy all of the lot you can get.

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Plus one.

All .22s prefer different ammo. There is no shortcut you just have to try everything.

You're a lot better off with 22 mag, shooting at 100 yards. Even at 100 yards, the 40 grain 22 mag is still clocking 1500 fps, 150 ft lbs energy.

CCI Subsonic or Lapua Subsonic.

My marlin700 and i can shoot steel targets all day long at 100 yards. i do that all the time. As far as bullet. it really doesnt matter. You learn to compensate for windage and elevation. its important to have your sights accurate for your rifle. You should be able to hit anything you aim for at 25 and 50 yards. So when you make the jump to 75 or 100 yards you will be able hit what your aiming for. A spotter helps but i have been able to hit steel with just about any ammunition i have bought.

the reason that wind drift, and drop in speed is less, on standard and sub rounds, is simple. as the atmosphere hits the nose of the bullet, on a fast round, the atmos continues to ' hang on to, and drag down' on the ogive of the bullet, and all down the sides of it, all the way to the end, trying to slow it down, and move it, all that it can.this is created becuase of the speed creates a bit of a vacuum next to the bullet, and the atmos continues to try to sit right next to
the bullet. this phenom does not occur with the slower bullets, they just hit the meplat(nose) and echo off and away, from the rest of the bullet, without trying
to hang on to it.
so that is why they are great for shooting, but you are still going to get a
much bigger arc with this round, than you would with a hi speed or hyper speed round, these will be much flatter out to 50 - 70 yds, then start dropping.

Worth the look:

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192455

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252050

Just an FYI, maybe it can be of some use.

300 yard drop in inches using Wolf ammunition @ 1050 fps and a 50 yard zero

50 yd. 0.00" (0.00 MOA)
75 yd. 2.00" (2.50 MOA)
100 yd. 7.50" (7.50 MOA)
125 yd. 12.00" (9.60 MOA)
150 yd. 16.50" (11.00 MOA)
175 yd. 22.00" (12.50 MOA)
200 yd. 27.50" (13.75 MOA)
250 yd. 39.25" (15.75 MOA)
300 yd. 51.50" (17.25 MOA)

Just an FYI, maybe it can be of some use.

300 yard drop in inches using Wolf ammunition @ 1050 fps and a 50 yard zero

50 yd. 0.00" (0.00 MOA)
75 yd. 2.00" (2.50 MOA)
100 yd. 7.50" (7.50 MOA)
125 yd. 12.00" (9.60 MOA)
150 yd. 16.50" (11.00 MOA)
175 yd. 22.00" (12.50 MOA)
200 yd. 27.50" (13.75 MOA)
250 yd. 39.25" (15.75 MOA)
300 yd. 51.50" (17.25 MOA)

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Guy: Where did you come up with this data? Your come up from 50 yard to 100 yard is close to my actual shooting data. But your come up from 50 yards to 200 yards is not.

I am looking at my first 200 yard zeros. Wolf ammo took 23 MOA elevation from 100 yards to 200 yards using a bench rest. Later when I shot it in a match, it took me 27.75 MOA elevation between 50 yards and 200 yards, (or 19 MOA from 100 yards to 200 yards). I assume the difference in MOA was related to being in a sling versus shooting off a bench rest.

22 would have about 40 ft lbs energy at 200 yards, lol.

Slamfire,
It's came from the links I posted above.

100 yd shooting with rimfire can be a hoot.
Every gun will be different but generallly std velocity will be much more accurate than most high velocity. In some guns this dffernce could be by a factor of 2 or 3.
Forget the bulk pack high velocity. Try CCI std , wolf MT,Federal target

Zeroed in my .22 Target Rifle this week for 50 and 100 since I'm going to start shooting small bore matches at the local range. When zeroed at 50, shoots about ~8" low at 100. I haven't run the high dollar standard velocity stuff to see which this rifle prefers yet (next range trip). The thing I've noticed about the high dollar .22 is not that they tend to be a lot more consistant from shot to shot (fewer flyers), seem to burn cleaner, and have a lot fewer duds. I also noticed that the Eley stuff smells really good when shot. Not exactly scientific.

I shoot quite a bit at 100 with my .22's both paper and clay pidgeons. What's strange is that I seem to do better on the pidgeons than I do on paper. I've got a Rem 597 with a 3-9 scope which seems to group poorly on paper but hits pidgeons at 100 with ease, with a sporter weight barrel, worst factory trigger I've ever felt, and 3-9 scope.

My other .22 is a Marlin 2000L. Heavy barrel, sweet trigger, single shot, and peep and globe sights. I actually group better with this rifle with iron sights than I do with the scoped 597 at 100.

CCI Standard, Subsonic gives me decent results. As does the pricey Lapua Midas L