Pelosi tosses cold water on assault-weapon ban

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Pelosi tosses cold water on assault-weapon ban
By Mike Soraghan
Posted: 02/26/09 11:59 AM [ET]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tossed cold water on the prospect of reinstating the assault weapons ban, highlighting Democrats’ reluctance to take on gun issues.

Attorney General Eric Holder raised the prospect Wednesday that the administration would push to bring back the ban. But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he never talked to her. The Speaker gave a flat “no” when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.

“On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. “I think it's clear the Bush administration didn’t do that.”

Outside of the dig at the recent Republican president, that phrase is the stock line of those who don’t want to pass new gun control laws, such as the National Rifle Association.

The White House declined to comment on Holder's remarks, referring reporters to the Department of Justice. The DoJ did not respond to The Hill's request for comment.
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http://thehill.com/leading-the-news...n-reviving-assault-weapon-ban-2009-02-26.html
 
I'm not sure that is cold water, exactly. Sounds to me like she's just hacked off to have a member of the executive branch pontificating on what legislation would be passed. Never count on turf wars among the opposition to secure your rights.
 
“On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,”
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What laws aren't being enforced?

Woohoo everybody, gun laws aren't being enforced, I'm going to go get me an m60!
 
I do not believe this is cold water at all. All she has done is deny that she has talked to Obama about a new AWB. She knows Obama wants a new ban, Holder just said so. She knows she wants a new ban also. So what is there to talk about exactly?
 
Just like any other female Dog... don't turn your back on her cause she wagged her tail...she'll bite you in the butt.
 
Everyone should be very careful with the current administration and congress. I’m starting to see a new trend in their strategy. They will say what they think the majority of Americans want to hear, while they act in a completely contrary way. This may sound like same-old-same-old, but they appear to be taking it to new levels. The mainstream media will report accurately what they’re saying, then report ambiguously (or not at all) what they do. This allows them the freedom to rewrite their own history. For example, from ABC news quoting AG Holder:
"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons,"
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Do you remember him saying that? I don’t deny he may have said it, but it wasn’t the thrust of the media reporting on his gun control position.
 
Despite his voting record, I remember Obama saying, "I support the 2nd Amendment and people's right to keep and bear arms."

But then again that was to get votes to become the POTUS.
 
jackdanson: "What laws aren't being enforced?"

I can think of several areas where new enforcement activity or emphasis could really change the landscape of the firearms community.

1. Unlicensed dealing, and abuse of C&R licenses to deal firearms. It's not as bad as it was a decade ago, but some "collectors" are still buying a dozen rifles wholesale, cherry-picking the litter, and selling the rest for profit into their local market or online. That's dealing.

2. Straw purchases. Buying your son/nephew "his" rifle is illegal.

3. Prohibited persons. Look for hundreds of thousands of guns to be dumped onto the market in the wake of the Hayes decision, and not just locally in the 4th Circuit. It's a national market, and many folks didn't even know until this week they were Prohibited Persons.

4. Background checks. Look for "quality enhancement" here, to weed out folks who have been able to buy guns but who, based on their background, shouldn't have answered as they did on the 4473.

5. Others; these are just a few off-the-cuff thoughts by a PRO-gun person.
 
No. Otherwise, what's to keep me from buying an AK and giving it to Whitey Bulger as a gift?
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I'm afraid I don't know that guy.

I can buy a rifle. And in a few months, I can give it to my son. It is my property. In a few weeks. At the time I bought it, it was mine.

Straw purchases are when you and 'whitey' walk into a gun store and you buy it knowing full well he can't own it. So, you buy it in your name.

What you seem to be saying is that I can never conduct a private tansfer of a firearm, which happens to be legal both at the federal level and at my state level.

Straw purchases are about intent. There is no prohibition that I am aware of concerning my son owning a rifle. He's 2, so he's not a felon, though his tantrums make me wonder about his potential.....
 
What laws aren't being enforced?
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The whole "enforce the gun laws" thing is a NRA style catch phrase. When the Speaker says their not being enforced it is a typical political-half-truth. Everytime someone robs a store with a gun, murders someone with gun or sells drugs while carrying a gun, gun laws are technically not being enforced.
 
DOD,Buying a gun to give as a gift IS legal as long as you use your money and buy it for yourself first. It is your property until you give it away. Also if the person you are gifting is legally eligible to own a firearm. As a lawyer YOU should know that.
 
K3: "What you seem to be saying is that I can never conduct a private tansfer of a firearm, which happens to be legal both at the federal level and at my state level. Straw purchases are about intent."

And intent may be inferred, even if you really "meant" to keep it. If you give a gift of a rifle you bought months or years earlier, that likely is no issue at all (unless they find "For Little Johnnie" on the purchase order). But if you buy a gun, and a day later give it to your son, that is a straw purchase.
 
Pelosi cannot be trusted... she is trying to get us all to drop our guard. I won't do it. She is perhaps my least favorite politician to hold a public office in this country. If you think BO is bad, don't let her out of your sights... I still think she is a reincarnation of 'ol Joey Stalin.
 
jimmyranthomson: "DOD,Buying a gun to give as a gift IS legal as long as you use your money and buy it for yourself first. It is your property until you give it away."

Jimmy, you have just defined a "straw purchase."
 
2. Straw purchases. Buying your son/nephew "his" rifle is illegal.
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Depends on the situation.

If a parent buys the gun as a gift for the kid, its legal. If the kid gives money to their parent with the specific intent of a firearm purchase, then yes its an illegal straw purchase.

Stupid law, but its the law nonetheless.
 
jimmy: "That is not a straw purchase and is completely legal. The amount of time between purchase and disposition is immaterial."

Not at all. Read some caselaw on point.
 
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