Long range shooting question

IIRC, IBS shooting is all about group size, rather than actual score. The tightest group ever at 1k was in the 8 ring i think...

That would seem to be missing the point (so to speak, ha, ha) to me.

Any insight?

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Well, that's how that sport is done. Did you see the gun?

That's a "precision gun" game, not a shooting ability game.

The gun is bolted to the table.

I get it. Thanks.

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I don't.
What's the point of shooting for accuracy if you aren't doing it?
I understand wanting the most accurate rifle/firearm but if you cannot make the shot - the rifle is useless.

I don't.
What's the point of shooting for accuracy if you aren't doing it?
I understand wanting the most accurate rifle/firearm but if you cannot make the shot - the rifle is useless.

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It's the point of many activities, mans ability to create and control machines...

This particular challenge involves pursuing the best shooting machine a human can make.

Just because it's not fun for YOU doesn't make it any less interesting or fun for others.

That thar is a gonne?

That thar is a gonne?

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Only according to the ATF, but what do they know?

Moving that group to the center of the target is a function of the sights.

The real skill is getting a small group.

When my friends and I compete with the same gun, it's about group size not points on the paper. That way the owner can keep the sights like he likes them, and we all get to see who shoots that gun the best.

Nice piece of equipment though.................

Seriously, look at that target. A THOUSAND YARDS.

WOW.

With my rusty math I get roughly 0.3 MOA

I'm amazed that ammo could be loaded that consistently regardless of the gun.

That ammo must be absolutely perfect.

Seriously, look at that target. A THOUSAND YARDS.

WOW.

With my rusty math I get roughly 0.3 MOA

I'm amazed that ammo could be loaded that consistently regardless of the gun.

That ammo must be absolutely perfect.

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A quote from this thread, pulled from the global rifles's site:

Global Rifles built their DSR 50 with special metals heated to extremely high tolerances, providing an accuracy that is second to none. For example, the DSR-1 in .308 will shoot a 10 shot group at 1000 yards of 1.7 inches using factory ammunition.

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That must be some NICE facotry ammo!!!!! (personally, i call BS)

That must be some NICE facotry ammo!!!!! (personally, i call BS)

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Be interesting to stick some South African 308 surplus in that thing and see how it does, or some Wolf.

ok folks this is no longer a gun, its just a machine. Therefore I must recoment that this is not shooting related and this thread be closed!
(so not to embarass any one who trys this with their pencil barreled hunting gun)

To each his own, not for me but I appriciate the accoplishment.

It's an impressive group for that range. However, it is bolted to a table and seems, well, a bit like cheating. If the bloke was seated and just using a sling I'd be enthralled.

That must be some NICE facotry ammo!!!!! (personally, i call BS)

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Be interesting to stick some South African 308 surplus in that thing and see how it does, or some Wolf.

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Hmm....you want to buy one to check it?

What I find most interesting is that it takes a "gun" that weighs a couple of hundred pounds to get 3/4" at 1K.

Cody Finch has a light gun (17#max) 1K 10 shot record of 3.835". This gun was shot off a rest.

I don't think its legal to bolt the gun to the table. I think those are leveling adjustments.

Gun isn't bolted to the table, geez...and this is just how that particular game if played. It's no more pointless than something like........slow-pitch softball. If you don't like it, don't compete in it.

...the DSR-1 in .308 will shoot a 10 shot group at 1000 yards of 1.7 inches using factory ammunition.

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I've got $1,000 that says with the shooter of your choice, you cannot shoot a 1.7" 10 shot group at 1000 yards. Hell, I'll even give you 3 tries.

Don

There seems to some interest these days in score benchrest, requiring that the group be centered. I recall reading about one match in which you had to declare whether you were going to shoot for group or score. I know my local club shoots rimfire benchrest for score. Just to liven things up, they use a 25 bull target, one shot each. Having to shift the gun for every shot makes it tough.

got severely embarrassed taking on serious target shooters with all the gear fancy match rifles etc

against my L96 Schmidt and bender optics and army issue sniper ammo gillie suit
etc

we got completely creamed it was embarrassing
a sniper rifle is a precision instrument just not nearly as precision as a proper match rifle and "sniper"match rounds are not match quality rounds
unless your a super eltie unit or you have a tame hand loader in a basement some where as allegedly the metropolitan police had for there rifle shooting team.
causing a lot of UK polices forces to buy new rifles after losing

Ok woody, what's the difference between match quality and sniper quality in both the rifles and the ammunition?

Factory Lapua 155gr from my AI-AWP, when new, would shoot about 1/2 MOA (tested at 200 yards). I've shot only similar handloads since then, and they are 0.25-0.50.

Here are other groups I have shot with my various AI rifles:

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The following is two sub-half MOA groups at 940 from two different military sniper rifles in .338 Lapua

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I dont understand heavy gun bench rest.