Public enemies..the movie

Not quite sure anybody can handle a BAR on full auto with only one hand though

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I have done it.

I loved the scene where Purvis shoots Floyd with the hunting rifle. You clearly see him use the double-set trigger to good effect. Couldn't tell what rifle or caliber he was using, though.

We saw this movie a couple of evenings ago. It seemed to me that the Thompson full auto guns seemed to stay right on level, even when being fired extensively. I was thinking at a minimum those guns would ride up with multiple shots fired. But, I have never shot or even handled the guns, so I am probably a poor judge on that one.

One thing my better half and I both noticed; in places the film seemed to have been shot with poor quality equipment; my best description was that it looked like the video of Jack Ruby shooting Lee Harvey Oswald...anyone else notice? I wonder if this was done by the movie makers for a specific effect?

Interesting movie overall; we enjoyed it-

I had the opportunity to fire one about 1.5 yrs ago. The thompson is a very heavy gun which makes it easy to control fire.

History repeats

"Corruption was rampant in places like Chicago and eslewhere, and someone with money could buy both police firearms or even the police themselves to be hitmen against rivals." Now they call them community organizers. You can also get a good deal on a senate seat.

No, No, NO ! We cannot thank dillinger for NFA.! Thank the same commie jerks we have in there now! ad remember FDR, clinton, Obama, They are who we can thank, not some criminal who cares not for any law. It would do good for all to remember its not Dillinger we are afraid of. We as a people are afraid of ...US! Me , I'm afraid of U.S.

All my thoughts on the guns have been summed up.

Now that those are taken care of, I wonder who gave them airtime in one of the half-dozen sky-worthy Trimotors.

Model 8 - a good bit, no firing on screen, though. Depp took one from the police armory during a prison break. Also you get to see one for a while while the G-men unload Dillinger from an airplane.

Won't watch anything with that America hating SOB, Depp. Let him go back to France and play with his pastries.
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Corruption was rampant in places like Chicago

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Its nice to know some things never change.

I loved the scene where Purvis shoots Floyd with the hunting rifle. You clearly see him use the double-set trigger to good effect. Couldn't tell what rifle or caliber he was using, though.

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I enjoyed the movie also! The rifle in question I thought could have been a Austrian Steyr with that butter knife bolt. I have seen few of them in person but handled a couple from an estate a couple of years ago and that was what it looked like at a glance.

I'm not going to be seeing it. It will make me want all those guns I can't have because of laws that make little or absolutely no sense. The previews have made we want to become an SOT3 though, and get the necessary approval by the ATF and other powers that be to manufacture NFA firearms for the purposes of marketing and selling to law enforcemnet and military. "Why officer you surely should have this BAR, it is .30-06 by the way and surely you can't just leave your life to depend on that AR in .223." "Better yet officer a good ol'Thompson would put that H&K(I know it really wouldn't, but I would be marketing after all lol) to shame, because if you aren't hold ing enough wait to make holding the gun uncomfortable, you just don't have real gun there do you?"

BARs, 1911 FA (granted I'd want a detachable shoulder stock, and drum for it, with a 7" barrel), SBS Winchester 1887, etc. etc.

Saw the film this weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it. It's not a great movie by any means, but the guns and gunplay were all impressive in typical Mann/Hollywood fashion. Thanks, Akodo, for the historical photo of Dillinger's arsenal at the time of his death. That's an impressive bit of hardware.

Fat Boy said:

One thing my better half and I both noticed; in places the film seemed to have been shot with poor quality equipment; my best description was that it looked like the video of Jack Ruby shooting Lee Harvey Oswald...anyone else notice? I wonder if this was done by the movie makers for a specific effect?

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It wasn't poor quality equipment - actually it was cutting edge filming technique, but it's just not suited to night time yet - he used Digital equipment, not normal/traditional motion picture film stock. This has been a point of controversy with the film-making crowd. The trade-off is that it leaves a very large grain size in night scenes. But you don't have those hokey-looking scenes where someone is standing in the woods under a Klieg light.

And yes, I bet that Mann and the cinematographer have got a rash of flack about the night scenes, but I had no problem with it in general. Film makers right now are wrestling with what is the best combination of technology/technique/lighting to make the best screen product, so it's not a slam-dunk case what the right answer is.

By the way Fat Boy, don't think the FBI didn't screw with that picture of Ruby and Oswald to frame-up Ruby. I've had a friend look into removing the obvious signs of manipulation, and it turns out the real story is quite different. Eveyrbody always assumed Det. Leavelle (the tall man in the tan suit and hat) was staring at the gun in Ruby's hand. Turns out he was watching for a chord change:


What the FBI released.


What the truth actually showed:


(I have been waiting a long time to get those into a THR thread... you made my day ).

Depp is just another ridiculous hollywood hypocrite.

from July 6. 2003 USA Weekend. "Instead he fell in love, first with Paradis and then with his adopted country. He says he is shocked by the gun violence in American schools and feels it is far safer raising a family in France."

This is one of a number of similar comments he's made. I find it interesting how someone with an attitude like that can justify accepting a role as an American Gangster, and, I'm certain, doing his best to make it seem glamorous.

I think it's clear that his greed and arrogance easily makes his morals and intelligence irrelevant, when it's convenient.

Public Enemy continuity snafu?

In the new movie Public Enemies the time is set in 1933/34. In one part of the movie, Dellinger is driving by a squad of military soldiers on a street corner post, armed with Garands. Im thinking Garands would not have been issued at that time?? Did the props guy get his time periods screwed up?

The M1 was introduced into service in 1936.

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Put on your flame retardant suit. You just might get flamed for ever expecting any modicum of reality from a movie.

In one part of the movie, Dellinger is driving by a squad of military soldiers on a street corner post, armed with Garands.

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I saw it today. Those soldiers were all armed with 1903 Springfields. Not am M1 rifle in sight.

Just saw it (finally).

I've enjoyed reading all the posts here with so much knowledge of the guns used in this film. I would have prefered the trigger being squeezed at the opening of the movie, and not letting off until the final 'shot.' But, I reckon they had to put some storyline in there, too.

Thought it was interesting when Dillinger went back to Chicago and saw the wired bookie room and the 'Syndicate' didn't want him around bringing attention. And with interstate crime becoming a felony, the writing was on the wall. As went the gunfighter a few decades before, so went the era of the bankrobber.

Man-oh-man, those were some serious guns back in those days.

I saw the welts on Depps hand, too. Lots of hammer bite, obviously. Now we have to sit here and wonder if it is a REALLY good eye at detail on the part of the director, or if Depp got a lot of trigger time to get ready for the film. (Although it doesn't take too much time to get welts like that if you shoot like I do and use a non-modified 1911. I have big hands and hold very high.)
I LOVED the movie for it's firearms/automobiles/airplanes.
Good question about the Ford Trimotors. I was in the Smithsonian a number of times over the last several months of their shooting, and the same plane was still stuck to the ceiling, so it wasn't that one. Doesn't Bob Hoover have one?
As for the guns, my personal favorite part was Dillinger talking to his armorer about problems with one of the Thompsons. "..and check the springs. It jammed twice..."

Also, Stephen Lang played Charles Winstead well enough to make me not want to mess with him.

Great movie...lots of correct firearms info, could have used more shootout action. Defiantly a buy along with HEAT and Miami Vice (new one).

You will probably come out of the movie wanting to buy a Thompson or at least a BAR.

Awesome movie, think about the shootouts from Heat but in the 30's and turn it up a notch. The authentic .45ACP/30-06 blast sounds were intense.