Im sure you have all been over this...carry in National Parks

A purchase permit, such as North Carolina has, has NO bearing on possession of firearms brought into the state. The purchase permit only has bearing on purchasing a firearm in that state.

For instance, Washington, for non-cpl holders, requires a 3 day wait on handgun purchases and requires a separate form and state police background check. That requirement has no bearing on handguns that you bring into the state that you previously purchased.

Purchasing requirements are completely separate from possession requirements.

Yes, in Washington state, a non-resident may openly carry any firearm that they are legally able to possess, while not in a vehicle. However, in Washington state, without a recognized CPL, the gun must be unloaded in a vehicle and not concealed on the person.

so, to continue "spelling this out", NavyLT,


I think what has made this difficult to sort out is that 1) some states do NOT allow OC, period, and 2) to carry, one must have a state permit.

MN does allow OC, but one must have a permit to carry, period.

(WI, for example, has recently joined the OC / no permit needed, IIRC--but they have an ongoing circus over there over getting state preemption and carry; the state is unduly influenced by the liberal urbanites.)


Jim H.

I think what has made this difficult to sort out is that 1) some states do NOT allow OC, period, and 2) to carry, one must have a state permit.

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But that kind of thing has been an ongoing issue with state to state reciprocity for years, long before this NP law came into the picture.

This National Park thing didn't really add to or take away from the confusion that was already there.

It has always been the responsibility of the carrier to make sure they were legal in other states. If not sure, don't carry. That's the only safe bet.

1. I have a MN carry permit.
2. I go to WA state, and I can OC, period--e.g., my MN carry permit has no bearing.
3. Since I can OC in WA, I can now OC in a NP there. Period.


Jim H.

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YES. Except, you won't be able to OC in a NP anywhere until the new law goes into effect in February, 2010. Once it goes into effect in February, 2010, then you will be able to OC in a NP in Washington state whether or not you have any carry permit only because Washington state law permits you to OC whether or not you have a permit.

Thanks, guys--I suspect my confusion about the actual issues here came about simply because, other than considering getting the Utah carry permit, I have never looked at carrying in other states--i.e., I haven't travelled recently.

Jim

What about NM? They don't allow carry in state parks, but have CCW and OC both in other areas. WA is easy, but NM to me is a bit more perplexing.

In Washington you cannot carry in a >21 portion of an establishment that serves alcohol, yet that prohibition does not affect National Parks. It's the same way with the prohibitions in New Mexico. The off limits areas do not affect carry in National Parks. You can OC or CC with a permit in a National Park in New Mexico. A state park is just another prohibited place like a bar or courthouse.

jeez, the last time I studied set theory was at least twenty-five years ago.

Jim