Guns of Haiti

I have a distinct memory of seeing the Haitian soldiers armed with M-1 Garands a few years ago. I can't place where I saw the photo, but I think it was during the late unpleasantness down there before they dissolved the country's military.

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There's one in at the end of the line in Dom's photo:

Yup. Judging from the motley hodge-podge of new and old it looks like the new police force is just raiding the arsenal of the old military. I wonder if they even have ammo for those.

Nothin like a little buttstroke to keep the serfs in line eh?

Strange grip on that M14... looks like the guy has been watching the "Art of tactical Carbine" volume I

How do they differentiate from looters, and those who have gone out to forage food for their starving family?

From my point of view, foraging for one's family would be a man's duty given the exceptional circumstances that prevailed during the first week. I don't mean stealing it from other families or Red Cross depots, but taking it from busted down stores whose owners may themselves likely be dead.

How do they differentiate from looters, and those who have gone out to forage food for their starving family?

From my point of view, foraging for one's family would be a man's duty given the exceptional circumstances that prevailed during the first week. I don't mean stealing it from other families or Red Cross depots, but taking it from busted down stores whose owners may themselves likely be dead.

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Ruh Roh.... might be a bad road to go down...

Back to the grip... lol... Yeah, that is unique!

My guess the police man is like most people pointing a gun at others... scared and out of the norm. I know that LEO training, and millitary training combined with years of doing it takes the edge off, but if my land just went through a disaster, AND I now had to worry about shooting people in my line of work I would be a bit shakey. But I would still hold the gun right

Weapons can are usualy a very interesting indicator of who is supporting who. I remember seeing some very interesting photos of Chang Kai Chek's followers in the 1930's armed with Thompson machine guns, I wonder where those came from.


In the case of Haiti I bet all those guns have serial numbers on them and came from the US government. Clinton gave Haiti billions in "aid" during his terms in office, and Bush had the war on terror. Take your pick they probably went to Haiti for one reason or another.

Weapons can are usualy a very interesting indicator of who is supporting who. I remember seeing some very interesting photos of Chang Kai Chek's followers in the 1930's armed with Thompson machine guns, I wonder where those came from.

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Didn't the Chinese also make a .45 version of the Mauser C/96 or broomhandle(whatever you call it)? Nice to know that the we're not the only peolpe to use the .45.

The guys in Dom's photo seem to have 1 M-1 Garand, multiple MP5A2s with jungle-taped mags, 1 sight-less M4/ other short M16 variant and an unknown camera.

Didn't the Chinese also make a .45 version of the Mauser C/96 or broomhandle(whatever you call it)? Nice to know that the we're not the only peolpe to use the .45.

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Yes, they did.

I've seen some AK's too.

Seeing as how Haiti doesn't even have a fire house, I suspect there isn't a lot of guidelines on firearms.

Weapons can are usualy a very interesting indicator of who is supporting who

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That and more. I remember a few months ago I was watching a BBC documentary that covered some mass shootings by the Red Army in the early part of the war. In Poland IIRC. Anyway they were rolling some footage of what looked like prisoner executions by Soviet soldiers, but I could tell in an instant that the footage had no link to the subject matter. Why? Because a soldier in the foreground had an M44 on his back. Meaning whoever was getting shot it was during a much later phase of the war.

my local city PD has 6 M14s, full auto i believe. maybe i should offer to trade them for semi auto M4 style carbines.

Here is a few Stainless Mini-14's.

The looter they caught is also posing! You gotta love Haiti

Today in my local paper (The Providence Journal) there was a picture of 2 cops chasing looters away. One had a garand with no rear sight and the other a stainless or nickel revolver. I couldnt make it out but it had a very smith and wesson look to it. I wish I could post the picture.

or "pretending" the trigger gaurd is a pistol grip?

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LoL, too funny !!! I didnt even notice at 1st !

unfortunately, there is not much to laugh about what is happening out there..

one good thing about it, they all know trigger discipline.

I bet the M 14s are Polytechs or Norincos. They are prevelant other places-just not here. The Berettas are probably Taurus pistols. I don't know about the Mossbergs.

I remember reading during the last police action we did down there that Haiti is equipped with M-14s we gave them a couple of revolutions ago.

Mini 14: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUKUP7RvO-s

I never thought I would utter these words but ..... I am jealous of the Haitians......M14's

Naval Institute Press has a couple of pretty good books about US involvement in Haiti and our MAP program imports. We released an awful lot of WW2 small arms into the wild in Haiti. Lots more Garands and Thompsons than M-14s.