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How about some pics of CZ's.

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Heres a couple I USED to have.....the SA Walt purchased. The Nickel Compact ....er, Walt got in trade..and the PCR is on my hip....

CZ's can be switched around and work AMAZINGLY WELL...just like these.
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Shoot well.....
 
85C......maybe I should start learning how to take a descent pic.

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Has anyone with a compact 75 had any problems with the durabilty of the mags? The mags make me uncomfortable with those stupid cuts almost all the way around it. I know they did it to prevent them from being converted, but they should have designed it differently.

Steve
 
Wow!

Some great guns. I'm with the rest of you. I'm going to have to buy a CZ97 also.

Anyone with any CZ40's? I just bought one but can't get it until next week because of State laws. :fire:


In the meantime, heres a pic of my PCR with my CZ75.
 

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Those "stupid" cuts all the way around aren't limited to the Compact. The standard 10-rounders are also made that way.

And they've been that way for years, and I've yet to hear of one failing because of the laser cuts... Don't worry about it.

Here's another shot of the custom 75B SA that PCRCCW mentioned above. He had another picture that showed it off even more impressively, but don't know what happened to that one.

Eric did/or had all the work done on this one before I got it: hand-lapped frame/slide, low-snag PT night sights, stippling on the front and back strap, Hakan grips, alternating (matching) color mag release, safety, slide release, hammer and trigger, and a SA trigger that is about as good as they get. (I've only had three or four guns that had similar triggers: similar: a S&W 52-2 and a well-gunsmithed pre-B 75, a wonderful old Browning HP, and a SIG P-210-6, now sold. This gun runs in "better" circles. Eric was building his business and something had to go. His loss was my gain.)

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And then there's my pre-B

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I'll have to make some pictures of my nickel 75 Compact and 85 Combat. (I recently acquired a blued 75 Compact with factory wood grips, and have an unfired CZ-75 coming soon.

I like CZs.
 
Rock on folks!

Here is my CZ75B in Tu-Tone...altough I don't get to shoot it so often any longer,there is absolutely no problems with it...I love it.


Eric,

Do you have a solo pic. of that Compact To-Tone w/Amboyna grips on?

Hey Walt! Can I use the pic of your SA on mw website??

Regards,

Hakan.


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As far as I'm concerned you can use the pictures, but they really belong to Eric. I just borrowed them for here. <grin> Check with him, as he had some other shots of the gun that showed the grips off to even better advantage.

(As you know, I generally prefer soft rubber grips, but these have worked nicely, and every person who has seen them has had something nice to say about them. And not just because I had a gun in my hand.)

The shots Eric first posted when he first offered the gun for sale looked like something photographed for American Handgunner. Gorgeous shots.
 
Hello.

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Pre-B CZ-75 that is marked "Made in Switzerland." It's not been fired. The grips are thin rubber ones from Butler Creek (I think; cannot remember.)

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Pre-B that's been refinished and had Novak fixed sights added....

Best.
 
Why would you DISLIKE internal slide rails? What is BAD about this design feature?

This is generally considered a desirable trait by most folks. It is one of the renowned features of the SIG P-210, which is among the most accurate of guns. A number of other guns use the feature. (Including everything in the CZ and Tanfoglio lines, and many Stars. My S&W 4006 used both INSIDE and OUTSIDE the frame slide design.)

In theory, at least, as the gun heats from rapid firing, the slide/frame fit becomes tighter rather than looser. I don't know whether reality and theory coincide on this point, but I've never heard of problems with slide to frame fit on these guns.

The CZ-97B is considered one of the most accurate of CZs.
 
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Although Plain jane right now, I do have an HBE Pro Holster on it's way, and Hakan Grips on order.

Jim
 

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In theory, at least, as the gun heats from rapid firing, the slide/frame fit becomes tighter rather than looser.

That's the problem. It seems designed like a heat trap to me. I like my guns uber reliable. As you know many guns like the 1911 and P35 have an even better reputation for accuracy with normal "combat style" frame rails.

Hopefully someone will jump in here and tell me how reliable their 97B is, but how many of you have fired your CZ's 500 rounds at a range session without a hic?

Not so sure that I like the idea of the firing pin block with the rollpin through the slide either...

It's weird, but some of the 97B's seem to have the beavertail, while others don't. Is that an option? I'd really prefer not to have that.
 
Have you EVER heard of it being a problem with ANY gun that incorporates this feature? From the P-210 through the CZ and Tanfoglio/EAA guns to the cheaper Stars?

Seems to me to you're trying to see a problem where one doesn't exist.

I don't think your concern is realistic -- unless, of course, you think you're going to have to fire 500 rounds in self defense, sometime. And if that's the case you'd better have a pretty big backpack for all those 50 or so mags, 'cause otherwise the gun's going to cool down as your reload 5 or 10 mags.

I no longer have a CZ-97B -- mine was just a bit too large for my hand -- but I never had a problem with the slide-inside-the-frame design on it, or any other gun with that feature. It certainly wasn't a problem with my 5 other CZs or my P-210-6. Or my Star Firestar Plus.

Slide-inside-the-frame is a characteristic of EVERY CZ,every EAA Witness, and Tanfoglio gun being used today. And this includes the IPSC Race Guns used in international competition. I've never heard of it being a problem in IPSC, either -- and they shoot fast and long, there. Those guns GET hot.

The firing pin restrained by a roll pin is a feature I don't like either, and they have been known to break during dry-firing. But you can use snap caps, or get one of the new "doubled" roll pins that don't break. (Or get a modified firing pin that won't strike the roll pin.)

I dry-fired my 97B a lot, but never had a problem. I dry-fired a 75B thousands of times without a problem. I dry-fired a 40B a few hundred times and broke the pin. I replaced it with a $.30 part from the hardware store, cut to length with a Dremel. I also got the firing pin modified. Did the same with my 97B.

All 97Bs have the same beavertail, by the way. The only changed feature that I'm aware of are cocking striations on the front of the slide with newer models.

If you're looking for an excuse NOT to get a CZ-97B, I think you're going to have to find something else -- like the big grip or the long double-action trigger pull. Or not wanting to use the "thumb on safety" technique in the 1911 style when starting from "cocked and locked" (SA mode), which is an option.

Otherise, you're passing up a very good gun.
 
but how many of you have fired your CZ's 500 rounds at a range session without a hic?

Well, I haven't fired quite that many at a range session, but I've had one failure on my CZ75 after approximately 1500 rounds, and my PCR has had no failures after 500 rounds so far. I've also used both of these pistols on some hot days. I remember one range session last year when the temp was close to 100 degrees and the CZ75 was almost to hot to hold and no reliability problems.

I'm sure there are some folks out there with more experience then me when it comes to CZ's, and I've never heard of internal rails being a problem with reliablity.
 
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Ok, ok, so it's just a comic, but it could happen, right? :D
 

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Hello. It's my understanding that the original version suffered some problems, but that was corrected early, early own. This version is now collected more than shot.

Best.
 
Kevlarman Don't leave us hanging. . .how does she escape the blackjack? Backup revolver on the ankle? If it was a Browning Hi-Power, she could eject the magazine at her face ;) .
 
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