Not with ammo that you will be able to easily and legally obtain.Won't the Five-SeveN defeat some armor? I think it would be a good alternative to a rifle in the car.
Not with ammo that you will be able to easily and legally obtain.Won't the Five-SeveN defeat some armor? I think it would be a good alternative to a rifle in the car.
There are some posts here that are dangerously close to blaming the victim, and that's very not cool.
Let me put this in another light...
"Maybe if the woman hadn't been wearing such a short skirt she wouldn't have been raped."
Can a victim make poor decisions? Sure. But crime is NOT THE VICTIM'S FAULT.
Problem with trying to move a rifle around in a car is just that. Situation awareness was probably what could have avoided that.
Let me put this in another light...
"Maybe if the woman hadn't been wearing such a short skirt she wouldn't have been raped."
Can a victim make poor decisions? Sure. But crime is NOT THE VICTIM'S FAULT.
I love you guys who always arm chair quarterback and always reply "situational awareness would have prevented this". What the ---- are you guys clairvoyant or something?
Please, do describe how "situational awareness" could have avoided this. I am all ears. What exactly are you going to do when a guy walks up to you with a Kalashnikov?
Unfortunately the vast majority of folks in society have no plans and no preparation for how to avoid a bad situation or how to react to one when it happens.That leaves me wondering why this dad made no preparations and took no action to defend his family.
i'm sure the internet commandos who train hours upon hours everyday would have dropped all three with a single shot to the head
even if the man had fired on the assailants the chances of stopping all three of them before any of them could open fire with his family in the car are slim and none. he probably presumed that cooperating would save his family, sadly this was not the case.
The father was trying to obey the Bad Guys, but wanted to remove his two small children from the back seat.
If he hadn't spent $2000 on the rims, he might even be able to afford that 1911. Its too bad his little kids suffered for such a stupid possession.
Situation awareness was probably what could have avoided that.
I think that's only with the LE only ammo.Won't the Five-SeveN defeat some armor?
So its his fault his kid is dead, because he wanted nice rims?
Of course no legal, or even perhaps moral, fault lies with the father for owning an expensive/showy item.
However, there are some points to ponder about that. Criminals do not have the right to act against you simply because you tempt them with attractive, expensive belongings. The law, and basic "morality" says you have a right to be secure in your possessions. But reality says that ostentatious displays of wealth (especially easily convertible wealth) do attract the attention of folks who have no qualms about committing violent crimes.
Part of situational awareness could be seen to concern proactive choices to not stand out and make a target of yourself. It should be perfectly safe to walk down the streets with $100 bills stapled to your clothing, but it just isn't so. If you live or routinely travel to/through a part of town where violent robbery is common, decorating your vehicle with abnormally flashy and expensive wheels isn't any more wise than hanging out at bus stops in $500 Italian loafers and a Rolex.
You have the right to sleep out under the stars on Kodiak Island, AK while using a honey-dipped porterhouse steak as a pillow. But you should know going into the situation that you're going to attract attention from creatures whose first priority isn't your continued health and well-being.
Yes, you have the right to do so, and anyone who tries to take them from you is wrong. But you can be VERY righteous and VERY dead all the same.
I do wonder if the original decision to buy (if the number is true) $2000 worth of wheels for his car has troubled his sleep as he mourns the loss of his daughter. It was his right, but it wasn't wise.
What a bunch of drivel.
Your forum "situational awareness" should be going off like mad because you're defending a bad position and doing so in a progressively worse manner.
Talking about ways in which one could avoid this poor guys predicament is one thing but you're way off base here.
The last sentence of your original post was WAY out of line, especially for a moderator. How dare you suggest that this man should be torturing himself over the death of his daughter and assigning himself blame?!!!!Please explain what you mean. You seem troubled by what I wrote but didn't explain why.
"Talking about ways to avoid the poor guy's predicament" is the only reason this thread is still open, so explain how I am "way off base here."
And what "bad position" do you think that I'm defending? I never said anyone has a right to take your belongings. I said that some folks WILL, if they have means and opportunity. Is that an indefensible position in your opinion?