Specialty & AP pistol cartridges

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I don't have a package of Razor ammo but I do have a couple of unopened packages of MagSafe Agent:
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Here's a photo of a Second Chance FeatherLight NIJ level IIa kevlar test swatch shot with MagSafe Agent 9mm. The bullet breached the kevlar but the test method was intentionally faulty (I simply put the test swatch on the ground and fired through it) for KOMO news. I don't have any photos of kevlar swatches/panels that stopped MagSafe Agent - I didn't have a camera and the swatches/panels were sent out for analysis after testing.

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I have a few unfired .45 ACP Devel 155gr Radially Dynamic Solid Copper Alloy Prototype Bullet Cartridges (shown below, left) left over from testing (out in the garage somwhere). You can read more here: http://www.firearmstactical.com/tacticalbriefs/volume4/number2/article422.htm

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I have tested 99% of exotic pistol rounds going back to the early 1970s and my work with velex and ending with my work with Joe & Kay in the late 1980s...I can say that 98% of them are a sheep in a wolves hide.
 
I would imagine that a Knife-type Sabot or Tempered, Sharpened, Steel Knife front Lead Bullet, would perform better against layered Kevlar, than anything which is going to try and push the strands or filliments aside or break them by stretching.


Don't Hunting Type Arrows cut through it well?
 
razor agent fired abunch of those...nothing special at all
 

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Old pinted 38 special "superx" stamp

Going through some of our ranges fired brass for reload brass, I came across two rounds that are pointed with two bands 3/4 the way up and are stamped "38 SPECIAL SUPER X".

These look very odd I have never seen anything like them and they look very old.

Are these two worth anything?

)TITLE SHOULD READ POINTED) SORRY.
 
Interesting ... so one can load their own AP pistol ammo and still be legal?

Maybe I need to invest in a CZ52 and start loading some .223 Timbs using bullets pulled from SS109 :evil:
 
chimetech - Those metal piercing loads usually sell for less than $100 per box of $50, so like Al said - $2.00 per.

Zundfolge - It's true, unless you live in CA, IL, TX, or Wash D.C., then you can load all the pistol AP you want, but it has to be a non-"commercial" thing, not for resale, or in huge quantities. The .223 timbs or other partially hardened core projectiles can actually be made in IL, and TX, but not in Wash D.C. or CA due to those states having really tough language about the projectile's performance, and not its construction. The Wash D.C. law is so vague and harsh that many +P+ fmj projectiles, or allot of 7.62x25 fmj projectiles would fall under their ban - but as with most of these laws, nobody really enforces until after a felony is committed and they coincidentally find some of the ammo - if anyone is even thinking about it.
 
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