New Sig, 9mm version of their 238

There is certainly a great deal of hype around the web about these guns. I wish they would put up some freaking pictures!!!

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Can you be more specific? I got sick on Jose Quervo one time but I had about 10 shots so it wasn't Jose's fault.

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I have a P238 built in the first year, late 2009. i went through several recoil springs and several generations of magazines before Sig introduced the current flat recoil spring.

While I had marginally better experience than many, the gun was not reliable to consider it a carry, self defense firearm. Failure to feed and failure to extract failures every magazine or two. Ammunition style or brand made no difference.

The flat recoil spring pretty much fixed most of the problems with mine. With the round wire recoil spring, there was not enough room in the recoil spring cavity for the coils of the spring when it was compressed. The round wire recoil spring would destroy itself by coil binding under recoil.

Also, I replaced the grips with a set of neoprene grips and the gun does not flop around in my hand under recoil any more.

It took Sig a year after I bought my P238, about 18 months or so after the introduction, to get the design reliable. Then you have the soft slide problem with the P238HD.

Fortunately for me, I did not chance an experience with Sig's customer service.

Sorry, i am not interested in doing Sig's product development on my nickel.

I might be interested if they make a stainless framed model, I wouldn't own a P238 if they hadn't come up with the HD. Aluminum doesn't do much for my thrill meter. If weight is the criterion the many plastic blobs out there will fill the bill, and cost less.

SIG needs to offer more than 1 1911 clone in 9mm, in fact I would like to see the RCS 1911 in 9mm. Not one word on SIG's websight about a P938, we all know how long it took to see stocks on the P238 and P290, after SIG introduced them on the site. 9-12 months before you see anything but a rumor. 18-24 months for consumers to work the bugs out of the design. There is really only one way to test them all...

The problems with the P238 have pretty much been fixed but in 2009 and 2010, not so good.

Here are a couple threads that are just the tip of the iceberg.

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-546034.html

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-544884.html

Threads from 2009 were even less complimentary, partiularly on the Sig forum.

There was a guy on TFL back in September talking about a "Sig P238 in 9mm" that would supposedly ship in Q1 2012. The guy claimed to have exchanged emails with a Sig employee, and I was very interested, but the whole thing sounded like horsepucky.

See: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463609&highlight=p238

However, this news would seem to confirm pretty much everything that guy said. If it's only slightly larger than a P238 and chambered in 9mm, and it's reliable, SIGN ME UP!

Still waiting for pictures, Sig.

You're probably gonna have to wait until the SHOT Show.

Let's home Sig learned a lesson from the whole Kimber Solo ordeal.

Carry my Sig P238 most of time (newer generation) and have no issues with it. Definitely would look at a P938

No pix=vaporware.

It is beyond me why anyone in their right mind would want a safety on a pocket 9mm which this new SIG will have like the 238. These are "point & pull" guns and not range guns. The SIG p290 had some "birthing" pains with the light strikes but SIG fixed mine & it has been 100% since and just as accurate as my p228 to to 10 yds. or better. No decocker nor silly safety: point & shoot. Lube it, load it & put in your pocket holster and don't mess with it until you need it.

Boge said:

It is beyond me why anyone in their right mind would want a safety on a pocket 9mm which this new SIG will have like the 238. These are "point & pull" guns and not range guns. The SIG p290 had some "birthing" pains with the light strikes but SIG fixed mine & it has been 100% since and just as accurate as my p228 to to 10 yds. or better. No decocker nor silly safety: point & shoot. Lube it, load it & put in your pocket holster and don't mess with it until you need it.

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I would like it so that I could carry it cocked and locked. Not everyone prefers a long DA pull on a defensive handgun. I can fire a SAO weapon drawn from condition 1 just as quickly as I can a weapon without a manual safety. It really isn't that hard to manipulate a manual safety if you practice with it.

When I shoot a DAO, the trigger pull is so long I tend to start flexing my wrist and botch the shot. To emphasize, I said ME, as in I, not you. So DAO doesn't work for me. If they are close enough that I don't have to worry about aim then I am already in deep do do and probably couldn't get a pistol out in time anyway.

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I agree....however, a large pistol with DAO trigger is much easier to stay on target.... but in the small pocket pistols, that long DAO trigger pull doesn't work for me either..... I have S290 and really like it.... but I fear that in the heat of battle, that long DAO trigger pull will make me flex my wrist and miss my target....

I'll agree with the long DOA.

I'm not too good with it and its a big reason I didnt give the Sig p290 much of a look..... but for some reaosn I keep looking at the Ruger LC9 which has a long trigger too.

One thing that I keep going back too is that the distance I would most likely be using a pocket gun with a long trigger is a distance that I'm not sure I could possibly miss.


I would be in this 9mm vapor-Sig for its trigger though.

One has to PRACTICE with a small CCW and I don't mean just slow firing Wally World blasting ammo. Do some CCW drills at 3 yds. and work on trigger control. It will come. Most people I see with these guns at a range are trying to shoot them slow fire like a Bullseye 1911 and you cannot do it that way. They are not designed for that. I have a Ruger LC9, SIG p290 & a Colt Pocket Nine and can dump all shots rapid fire into two inches at 5 yds. These are guns made to shoot your way out of trouble, i.e., "shoot & scoot." Forget the sights & pull the trigger all the way fast and let reset like a DA revolver. LOOK at the target & not the sights. Train yourself to shoot where you look. Shoot them like a DAO revolver.