Why does no one make a completely GI issue 1911?

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There are a ton of 1911s out there and a ton of companies that make them, all with their own little twists and tweaks. It seems there are a few companies that try to make a 1911 that is pretty close to being like a GI 1911 or 1911A1. But why is there no exact reproduction? If a company, like Colt, took the exact design specifications and just started building them again with zero changes, not even a fancy "commemorative" artwork on the slide, I bet they would sell like hotcakes. Why has this never been done?
 
Market demand. The market demand for a GI type 1911 is far less than that of modernized 1911s. Why make something that isn't in demand?
 
I'm guessing it would be because the standard issue one was built to the minimum required standards as regards to having usable sights, an inability to handle other-than-FMJ rounds, and less than tight standards of tolerances.
 
Colt has within the last 10 years put out a WW I model (1911), 1918 model (1911), and a WW II model (1911A1). I think the 1918 model is still being produced.

The Series 70 is very close to a 1911A1. It has taller sights and the teardrop thumb safety.

Colt's Manufacturing
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Why has this never been done?
Norinco did for a while. Sorta. (sights were improved) Politics killed that particular import.

Springfields GI came pretty close.

Notice that both were made off shore? Probably a reason for that, price point and all... Colts repros are nice but aren't wallet friendly.

Kimbers original foray into 1911s was to provide the extras everyone said was needed to make a 1911 perform, for a little more moola, a bill they filled well initially. Everyone wanted the little tweaks on a base gun, but a cheap base gun to work on.

Original design sights work well for 18 year old eyes, but not many 18 year olds buy new handguns, more like 58 year old handgun buying eyes needing better sights. Oh, the hammer bites you too? Brass mangled from extraction?

Hmmm. What to do what to do... ;)
 
IMO, very close =/= exact reproduction.

As has been stated, there likely just isn't enough of a market demand for an exact reproduction.

Keep in mind that despite the jokes that say otherwise, God himself didn't instruct JMB on how to make the original 1911. We've come up with better ways to do things these days, and so while the basic design is still solid, most modern 1911 buyers want one with some more modernized features.

I'm not saying that there is NO market for an exact reproduction, but that the market that exists likely just isn't large enough for it to be a particularly profitable venture.
 
Features of the 1911A1/1924 that I want on my Colt:

Short checkered trigger. Not a half ***** serrated one as it comes with.

Thicker profile steel arched and again, actually checkered MSH with lanyard loop.

Wide checkered spur Full length hammer.

And I want these parts in matte stainless.

Anyone have a source?
 
As has been stated, there likely just isn't enough of a market demand for an exact reproduction.

Keep in mind that despite the jokes that say otherwise, God himself didn't instruct JMB on how to make the original 1911. We've come up with better ways to do things these days, and so while the basic design is still solid, most modern 1911 buyers want one with some more modernized features.

I'm not saying that there is NO market for an exact reproduction, but that the market that exists likely just isn't large enough for it to be a particularly profitable venture.
The demand can be estimated or understood by anybody old enough to know when real GI surplus 45s were a dime a dozen and bushels of them were bubbaed at the kitchen tables of thousands. Very few survived unscathed. That tells me demand would be next to nothing.
 
Never said I did, I just want those parts, which IMO are what would make a true GI repro a great gun. The other things I desire in a carry 1911 like Trijicon sights (not novak cut, the model that fits the standard dovetail cut), rubber grips, and maybe a lowered ejection port can all be found or changed fairly easily.

Edit* I guess you noticed I wasn't the OP :)
 
Why? Because relatively few buyers want a true USGI pistol.

What today's 1911 fans want is a big-boy toy. One that's tight and doesn't rattle. One that will shoot into less then 3 inches @ 50 yards, although they can't hit a bull standing sideways @ 5 feet. The more gadgets hung on it the better 'cuz that's what impresses the guys they meet at the local shooting range. :uhoh:

Of course although it's supposed to be a weapon, they want N.M. (National Match) stamped all over it, especially the barrel. If it’s really a N.M. barrel (which is sometimes doubtful) it will have a tight chamber. Unless kept clean the pistol may start having hiccups, sometimes in less then 50 rounds.

Then there's the magazine. Browning designed it to hold 7 rounds, but ever since someone found you could stuff in 8, the lesser number is out. Do anybody ever wonder why Browning stopped at 7? Of course not!

Nope, today the pistol that Browning designed (and which worked, even in the most harsh environments) is obsolete in the eyes of the current generation. Jeff Cooper's advise concerning "everything you need and nothing you don't," is largely ignored.

But all is not lost. A basic version with better sights can be had from several makers, and a bit of lapping will fix excessive tightness. As 1911Tuner and I both know, an ordinary pistol with the right magazine, correctly fitted extractor, and service pistol chamber dimensions will feed anything you throw at it.

Been there, done that... ;)
 
I don't peronally have any interest in the 1911 as a carry or range gun. To be honest, I'm a purely polymer 9mm fan. But if I ever were to purchase a 1911, it would be for the historical nature of the gun. And for that I would want the gun that was issued to soldiers, preferably the WWII A1, but NIB. It's kind of a shame I can't really get that.
 
I think the 1918 model is still being produced.


The Colt 01918 WWI Repro has not been produced for about a year and a half. About 4,000 were made of what is known as the "Black Oxide" or "Black Army" pistols. I have two of them. They are as close to the original "G.I" 1911 as one will get with modern materials and equipment while not costing several thousand, or more to produce. They are really nice pistols, and I shoot one, which is very accurate and reliable, btw, and keep the other as a safe queen.
 
What about Auto-Ordnance? I have heard their 1911s are very close to mil-spec GI issue.
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40 years ago, my barracks buddies and I were having a discussion about our issued GI 1911' Nobody was really fond of "old slab sides" The complaints were; POS, limited range, ugly, antique, heavy, can't hit the broadside of a barn, boat anchor, small capacity, likes to jam, 30 foot range, thats far as i can throw it.

Several discussions were held about improving the beast. Sights, magazine release, etc.

One topic we agreed on was the end game. The cosinesses was, nobody wanted to be shot with this beast. We knew it would do it's job, if we did ours.

Fast forward 40 years, and people want a "retro pistol" Go figure.
 
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The complaints were; POS, limited range, can't hit the broadside of a barn, 30 foot range, thats far as i can throw it.
Blame the shooters, not the gun.

I shot the target post off behind the head of the 25 yard silhouette qualification target with one in basic training.

Even the range NCO's thought it was a fluke, until I did it several more times while they loaded magazines for me.

rc
 
But if I ever were to purchase a 1911, it would be for the historical nature of the gun. And for that I would want the gun that was issued to soldiers, preferably the WWII A1, but NIB. It's kind of a shame I can't really get that.
your a little late Colt produced these a couple years ago.
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and if you don't like the pretty blue they made a parked repo too.
 
But if I ever were to purchase a 1911, it would be for the historical nature of the gun. And for that I would want the gun that was issued to soldiers, preferably the WWII A1, but NIB. It's kind of a shame I can't really get that.

New-in-box is probably out of the question, but very few GI's got them that way in the first place.

I suggest you save your money until you can buy one of the original pistols. You will have what you want, and it would be a good investment, both short and long term. Unless it was really new you could still shoot it once and awhile without harming its value.

Second option: Look for a commercial Colt Government Model with a serial number between C221001 (1946) and 272550C (1956) that were still being made to USGI specifications, except for the manual safety thumbpiece, serrations on the mainspring housing/slide stop in place of checkering, plastic stocks with were Colt logo branded, and the trigger fingerpiece was slightly different. If it mattered all could be easily replaced.
 
I'll don my nomex suit now. My dad has a real WW1 1911. It is a piece of crap. It rattles, the barrel will actually wobble inside the bushing because the tolerances are so loose, the poor sights match the poor accuracy. Anything besides round nose lead is a dicey proposition at best. I have never been bitten by the hammer but I can see it happening. I would rather have a RIA than an original 1911 colt. I know it sounds like a good idea having an all original 1911 but before you get teary-eyed with nostalgia I suggest you try one, they are not nearly as good as modern guns. I can see why companies don't produce original 1911 if I paid for a NIB gun that rattled and shot like that it would go back the next day.
 
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