Wisconsin carry

I was perusing Wisconsin carry laws this morning, and I'm a bit confused.

The law says that I don't need to inform an officer that I carry unless he specifically asks.

Yet, in another chapter of the WISCONSIN’S NEW CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPON LAW (I'm afraid to provide a link - received a warning for providing two links yesterday) it says that you must immediately inform the officer during any contact, traffic or otherwise.

Any WI people able to offer advice? Thank you.

Thank you, gentlemen, for your responses.

The Wisconsin DOJ clearly states in its WISCONSIN’S NEW CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPON LAW QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS OCTOBER 20, 2011 that:

"Do I have to show anyone my CCW license?

"A licensee or out-of-state licensee who is carrying a concealed weapon must display the license and photo identification to a law enforcement officer upon the request of the law enforcement officer while the law enforcement officer is acting in an official capacity and with lawful authority. Wis. Stat. § 175.60(2g)(c)."

However, later the same document provides:

"What should I do if I have a CCW license and I have contact with a law enforcement officer while in possession of a concealed weapon?"

"While the law does not impose any specific requirements other than displaying a photo ID and CCW license upon request of a law enforcement officer, there are some recommended actions you should take when you have contact with a law enforcement officer. Contact can include a traffic or other stop and situations where you contact an officer or when an officer approaches you for information or otherwise. If you have a CCW license and you have contact with a law enforcement officer while carrying a concealed weapon, you should do the following:

1. Immediately tell the officer that you're carrying a concealed weapon and where it's located.

2. Keep your hands where the officer can see them.

3. Cooperate fully with the officer.

4. Don't make any quick movements, especially toward the weapon.

5. If you're in a vehicle:

- Roll down your window and place your hands in plain view on the steering wheel
- If it is at night, turn on the vehicle's dome light.
- Calmly tell the officer you have a CCW license and that you have a weapon with you. Ask the officer if they have particular instructions concerning the weapon.
- Do not touch or attempt to touch the weapon unless specifically told to do so by the officer.
- Do not leave your vehicle unless specifically told to do so by the officer.

In certain circumstances, a law enforcement officer may ask to take temporary possession of the weapon or may seize the weapon during interaction with the individual to ensure the safety of the officer and others or to secure the weapon as evidence. The officer will return the weapon at the end of the stop unless the individual is placed under arrest for a violation of the law that allows the weapon to be seized."

I'm still confused. The little I've had contact with the law enforcement (outside my own family members), I don't trust them at all, unfortunately.

The latter situation forces me to give the LEO freedom to do any search on my vehicle and me. It's like a terry Stop without probable cause. I don't need that.

What I dislike the most is the disarming of me, like I trust a copper not to blow my genitals away (I carry AIWB).

Anyways, very confusing information from WI DOJ. BTW, I'd never OC in WI with the history you guys have had.

I love your state, so beautiful and full of nice people. I'm not sure, though, I want to put my wife and I in a situation that can be interpreted any which way the cop decides.

I never tell a cop I carry if I'm not required to by the law. It just causes more hassle and dangerous situation.

Thanks for the links, turbojohn41

You all have a nice day and stay safe.

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Off topic.

F-111 John As to the linking problem and warning, this is what I stared every time I logged in:

IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ

"Recent events have forced THR to clarify some policies.

This was necessary in order to reduce our exposure to possible lawsuits.

In order to continue to use this forum you must abide by these new policies.

Your adherence to these policies is mandatory.

New Policy Announcement"

The New Policy Announcement was a link to Copyright Infringement issue post by Derek Zeanah.

I provided two links to a thread regarding gun photography: one to a camera manufacturer and the other to the American Handgunner trying to inform the members that with 'normal' camera it's impossible to shoot pics like the ones in the AH.

The warning disappeared after I contacted Mr. Zeanah three times trying to clarify the issue.

In my humble opinion VERY BAD ADVICE. If your carry has nothing to do with the interaction with the officer,,,KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!

That is even if you are Open Carrying...you don't say...oh, by the way officer friendly, I am wearing a hat...it's right here on my head...now do you?

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You do comprehend, don't you, that I'm quoting the WI DOJ's "Weapon Law"?

I could not agree more. Terrible advice. Only 8 states require you notify the LEO.
Wisconsin,thankfully,is not among them.

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How do you explain this: Wisconsin DOJ

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ccw-faq-20111020.pdf

Page 26.

"What should I do if I have a CCW license and I have contact with a law enforcement officer while in possession of a concealed weapon?"

"While the law does not impose any specific requirements other than displaying a photo ID and CCW license upon request of a law enforcement officer, there are some recommended actions you should take when you have contact with a law enforcement officer. Contact can include a traffic or other stop and situations where you contact an officer or when an officer approaches you for information or otherwise. If you have a CCW license and you have contact with a law enforcement officer while carrying a concealed weapon, you should do the following:

1. Immediately tell the officer that you're carrying a concealed weapon and where it's located.
2. Keep your hands where the officer can see them.
3. Cooperate fully with the officer.
4. Don't make any quick movements, especially toward the weapon.
5. If you're in a vehicle:

- Roll down your window and place your hands in plain view on the steering wheel

- If it is at night, turn on the vehicle's dome light.

- Calmly tell the officer you have a CCW license and that you have a weapon with you. Ask the officer if they have particular instructions concerning the weapon.

- Do not touch or attempt to touch the weapon unless specifically told to do so by the officer.

- Do not leave your vehicle unless specifically told to do so by the officer.

In certain circumstances, a law enforcement officer may ask to take temporary possession of the weapon or may seize the weapon during interaction with the individual to ensure the safety of the officer and others or to secure the weapon as evidence. The officer will return the weapon at the end of the stop unless the individual is placed under arrest for a violation of the law that allows the weapon to be seized."

Thank you both gents for your replies.

So, it's still up to the cop whether or not make a big deal about the carrying. The fact that the DOJ included the recommendation (in the law) will be interpreted by some cops in a fashion that entails negative consequences to the law-abiding person carrying in Wisconsin - I'm sure of that.

Even when the OC was legal, the cops were harassing WI gunrunners for fun and show of force. They're, in fact, doing it all over the country.

I'd rather have the law simple, but it is what it is.

I'll never inform an officer if not asked or required.

Stay safe.