I think Hi Point wants me to break federal law...

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I have an older model Hi Point 995 Carbine in the ATI Cx4 look-a-like stock.

The carbine has developed hairline cracks in the bolt so instead of letting the gun blow up in my face, I've decided to send it back to Hi Point's factory in Mansfield, Ohio.

When I called HiPoint I was instructed to put the carbine in its original box, wrap that with that brown paper stuff, mark it as "machine parts" and mail it. I've heard and read different things about how you can mail a gun to an FFL but i'm not sure how accurate that is. The fact that they wanted me to put false information on the package didn't sit well with me either. When I talked to the post office all I got was a "no, you can't mail guns" but I'm not sure how well informed the particular person was.

A lot of people have told me "just do it, you won't get caught" but if it is illegal it's not something I'm willing to attempt at all. A breach of federal law could really damage my career.

Thoughts? Is this legal? Should i chew Hi Point out?

Thanks!
 
can you just send the bolt? why do they need the whole firearm? i would think just the bolt would be considered just parts.
 
If your state allows you to take the gun from your house to the Post Office, Federal Law allows you to mail a long gun to an FFL, and Surprise Surprise, the FFL can mail it back to YOU!

Do not even think of mailing a handgun via U.S. Mail.

Here in NJ we have a problem with handguns.

UPS and Federal Express will ship them, but a citizen without a carry permit cannot take it to the shipping office!
 
The counter workers at the UPS "hub" near me have taken to the practice of requiring you to UN-BOX the gun to show them that its not loaded.

Yeah.

That's real convenient after I just spent considerable time and effort to get everything wrapped up tight and secure. Now I get to un-do all my work because they won't trust me to tell them the gun is not loaded.
 
I got the dreaded "is this a gun?" at the post office once. Postal worker threatened to call the police on me. After a phone call to the customer service department, the postmaster had to personally call me to apologize, and hold a training course on what can be shipped.

Long story short, Yes, you can ship boxed firearms to an ffl, the manufacturer, and yourself. I assume that hi point tells you to call it "machined parts" in order to prevent you from having the same ordeal as me. (I'm from an area about 45 minutes away from hi point's headquarters.

I have found it easier to mail firearms to myself when i fly home instead of trying to fly with them. try not getting a weird look when you open up a pelican case with an AR and four pistols at the check in counter while being surrounded by soccer moms.
 
Thanks for the input. I'm in Ohio and I don't believe that there are any extra regulations regarding the post office.

The sad thing is that I could drive for 30mins and hand it to someone at the factory but apparently that's a no no
 
Don't know if state laws come into it or not but I had Smith and Wesson fix a handgun for me. I sent it to them in the original box via FedEx and they sent it directly back to me. The only thing they required was that it be restricted delivery, with me there to sign.
 
No Federal law will be broken by shipping you gun back to the manufacturer.

USPS will ship log guns such as your carbine and they do want you NOT to mark the outside of the box as a firearm.
 
Post office is the Last place you want to ask for info about mailing firearms. I took a rifle to the PO to mail it to a buyer upstate. The clerk told me I couldn't mail it. Me: Why not? Clerk: You need to be a licensed dealer to mail a gun. Me: No, BATF says an unlicensed person can mail a long gun to another unlicensed person INTRASTATE. Clerk: What's BATF? After some more exchange he grubbed around in his foot thick rule book for a bit and finally decided to ship it for me.
 
I think Hi Point wants me to break federal law...

Is this legal? Should i chew Hi Point out?
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The are doing nothing of the sort. Perfectly legal. You should thank them for helping you get the gun back in for repairs.
When I mail long guns via USPS they don't ask if it contains a firearm.
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Nor are we required to declare the contents either. Don't open a can of worms that needs not be opened.
I was instructed to put the carbine in its original box, wrap that with that brown paper stuff, [strike]mark it as "machine parts"[/strike] and mail it.
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No real need to write 'machined parts' on the outside. Scratch that part and follow their remaining instructions.
 
Thanks everyone!

I guess I fell victim to the misinformation out there. It always blow my mind how misinformed people are about the law and hear I am making the same mistake :eek:

I guess this is why we have forums to share knowledge.

Thanks again!
 
Fonzie2k - that's what we're here for. Between all of us, we've come across virtually every situation. I 'members the first time I went to ship a gun from my local PO - the nice lady, while quaking in her boots, told me I needed to register with the Post Office as a gun dealer and I needed to request the forms from the Postmaster General. All incorrect. You have been given the right info on this forum...
 
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