I'll never give up my guns.

Everyone says it, but when they outlawed lots of guns in California, the Californians didn't care. When they outlawed guns in the UK and Australia, no one cared. Well they didn't care enough to fight anyway.

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a lot of bravado spewed by many, standing up to the federal government not so much.

something tells me if they thought about trying this there'd be a whole lot of heavily armed fish in some lakes.

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That's the funniest thing I've read all day!

JERRY said:

a lot of bravado spewed by many, standing up to the federal government not so much.

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"I have a right to nothing which another has a right to take away" -Thomas Jefferson

As much as you think the bluster is ridiculous, it is just as ridiculous to think that door to door confiscations wouldn't incite violence in some cases.

Two sides to this "I will not give up my guns" bravado:

1) we sound brave and tough, and we are not to be messed with
2) we sound crazy and belligerent, and we pose a danger to society

Which do you think the antis will hook on to?

beatledog7 said:

Two sides to this "I will not give up my guns" bravado:

1) we sound brave and tough, and we are not to be messed with
2) we sound crazy and belligerent, and we pose a danger to society

Which do you think the antis will hook on to?

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The antis can take their opinions and stick them where the sun don't shine.

beatledog7 said:

Two sides to this "I will not give up my guns" bravado:

1) we sound brave and tough, and we are not to be messed with
2) we sound crazy and belligerent, and we pose a danger to society

Which do you think the antis will hook on to?

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The antis will say we are crazy and belligerent anyway....they already do.

Can't tell you how many comments I've already seen from people equating gun ownership to condoning child murder.

When just-obeying-orders government toadies come to take away the citizens' guns, it is they who are in rebellion, not the citizens who so courageously resist.

Compliance with the illegitimate and tyrannical usurpation of power is as contemptible an action as the confiscation of the guns.

...door to door confiscations...

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Not an effective tactic.

WYOMan said:

He doesn't need a round in the chamber to kill.....he's Tactical with a Special Weapon. He's getting ready to remove the slide and beat the perp to death with it.

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Is that the flippy-up-thing at the end of the gun?
Very dangerous.

The last great act of defiance...

Is that the flippy-up-thing at the end of the gun?

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Don't you know a anything? It's the shoulder thing that goes up.

Yeah, many of them already think we're crazy. All I'm saying is it might be wiser not to hand them something that could be taken as solid evidence?

Most of us feel the same way about this and have no intention of just rolling over handing in anything. But there's nothing to be gained by thumping our chests about it here.

beatledog7 said:

Most of us feel the same way about this and have no intention of just rolling over handing in anything. But there's nothing to be gained by thumping our chests about it here.

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Sure there is. I'd rather thump chests and get them to back off, than shoulder a rifle and MAKE them back off.

Not only is this not High Road, it fails a third-grade grammar test. What would Forrest Gump's mama say?

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It was a quote from Piers Morgan when he was "interviewing" Larry Pratt. And I'm sorry if I offended you with my grammatical incompetence.

HOOfan_1 said:

The antis will say we are crazy and belligerent anyway....they already do

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And they aren't? Death threats. Shoot all NRA members and other threats of violence. If we sound crazy, the antis sound murderous...

JBrady555 said:

Heres the quote, I found it.

Noah Webster quotes


“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. the supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.”

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Just a numbers game, really.

50 million gun owners. If a rate of 1 out of 100,000 resist, that's 500 times that rounds will be fired in anger. Chances are a few of those will go on the offensive and not sit around waiting, rather, banding together in small groups to hit confiscation teams or sites, or other targets of opportunity that are relevant.

In all reality the rate required is much lower than 1 in 100,000, because there's no way for EITHER side to tell how many more will follow after the first incident of insurrection occurs.

It's no surprise the fine folks in California's law enforcement community REFUSED to follow the orders of the State, to go around confiscating arms. They KNOW what was waiting for them if they did.

I would suspect we would see the same thing in New York if Cuomo's plan went through.

somerandomguy

Tell her you're going to burn the shoes you got her for christmas...

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Lord no if I did burn her shoes the fire dept would have to call in a second pumper, and the cost to replace them would be three times as much as replacement of my guns.

The antis are not stupid. They're not going to go house to house confiscating guns, especially when that means they will have to pay for them. If they want to eliminate a certain class of guns (AR's, AK's, or whatever), they would create a category for them under the National Firearms Act, have an amnesty during which they could be registered, and then when that amnesty expired, declare the unregistered ones contraband. If you showed up in public with one (to go to the range, hunt, etc.), you would be subject to arrest, in the same way that someone seen with an unregistered machine gun is now. What you would have would be a useless (and worthless) gun hidden in the attic.

I clearly remember the 1968 amnesty for machine guns (which included DEWATs, which up to that point didn't have to be registered). A lot of people I talked to then said that they wouldn't register their unregistered machine guns, seeing that as a first step to confiscation. Well, here it is some 44 years later -- those that registered are sitting on fortunes, while those that didn't have a worthless nightmare in the attic.

I know that all this false bravado of "They'll never take my gun!" is cathartic. But just be careful what you say now. It might come back to bite you.

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r1derbike said:

And they aren't? Death threats. Shoot all NRA members and other threats of violence. If we sound crazy, the antis sound murderous...

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They also say that the NRA is nothing more than a domestic terrorist organisation. I'm not kidding, the antis are more delusional than Adam Lanza himself. *facepalm*

I hate to say it but I cannot believe how many of you would cave so easily. We are only strong in numbers, without that you might as well go ahead and turn them in now. Your forefathers and everyone that has died for this nation would be rolling over in their graves. I find it very sad that so many of younwouod give it up so easily. They would literally have to take them from most people I know and most of us around here could fend them off and live in the woods for quite some time. No, it would not be pleasant, no it's not ideal, but if it gave an inkling of hope to anyone else to fight off tyranny and change the course of events then it would be worth it.

IMO, given the state this country is in right now pulling off such legislation would destroy this country. They are idiots. Maybe that's what they want. Don't give it to them. That being said it's probably not wise to discuss anything on the Internet lol. Oh Nevermind I lost all of mine in a deep sea fishing extravaganza. Sorry. You better start putting them in the hills. I assume PVC sales will skyrocket as leaving them in your home will not be feasible either.

To put it simply, when the government gives up all of their's, including the military, then I will give up mine. I mean afterall with no guns we will all be safe, right? So, there will be no reason for the military or fed law enforcement or security teams for politicians to have them!