Magpul will not sell items to agencies or LEOs in banned states.

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Or at least until they figure out a program.





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REGARDING LEO SALES
March 1st, 2013

Back in 1990, when I was deployed in Desert Shield and Desert Storm as a Marine grunt, some companies prioritized me items for my M16 for shipping that I purchased with my own funds. After getting out and forming Magpul in 1999, I established the same priority policy for Military and Law Enforcement, due to the requirements of their profession.

The same policy has been in place for 13 years now and has never been an issue until a few days ago. I do not support the idea that individual police officers should be punished for the actions of their elected officials. That said, I understand the concerns that some have with Law Enforcement officers getting special treatment while at the same time denouncing second amendment rights to another citizen in the same state.

With the fight in Colorado right now we do not have time to implement a new program, so I have suspended all LE sales to ban states until we can implement a system wherein any Law Enforcement Officer buying for duty use will have to promise to uphold their oath to the US Constitution - specifically the second and fourteenth amendments - as it applies to all citizens.

Richard Fitzpatrick
President/CEO - Founder
Magpul Industries
 
This man has served his country, as both military and civilian, for decades. He has earned respect and conferred it to others. I can only only imagine that he must feel conflicted about this, and I don't envy him the decision. I do respect him and his company for having principles and seeking a balance between their love of country and their obligations to its government and citizens.

Continuing respect, sir... doing the right thing is not easy.
 
I like Mr. Fitzpatrick's idea for an "Oathkeeper" system. I understand that is entirely symbolic, as any ban-state cop who doesn't respect the constitution is just going to "check the box" anyway, but maybe having to go through the motions will give them something to think about.
 
I like it. Uniformed servicemembers out there...whether Armed Forces or LEO...don't always support the actions of those in charge.

The oathkeeper requirement will remind these guys of who they really serve and protect, without making them suffer because of these fools who are in charge.
 
Lex Luthier said:
This is how we will win. God bless his willingness to stand up to tyranny.
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This. God bless him! This is a huge win for us, it will certainly put the pressure on politicians, at the very least send them a message they may or may not give thought to.

This just made my day.
 
Just sent this to Magpul

I just read about Magpul's decision to suspend orders to law enforcement in 'ban states' and wanted to thank your company for helping Americans put pressure on the law makers all around the country. The esteem of your company continues to grow to new heights. You have gained at least one (and probably thousands more) very loyal customer.
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I think this suspension is largely publicity oriented. Any self respecting law enforcement agency can get magazines.
 
22-rimfire said:
I think this suspension is largely publicity oriented. Any self respecting law enforcement agency can get magazines.
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You're right it's more of a message. But many agencies use PMAGs and if it's just a little bit harder to get them they might join us in our fight with tyranny.
 
I think this suspension is largely publicity oriented. Any self respecting law enforcement agency can get magazines.
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It's a matter of principle. They're standing up for what they know is right.
 
Most of what's going on is symbolic. The proposed laws will frustrate some criminals but not stop them. The support behind them is mostly “feel good,” and “see, we are doing something.” Ask just about any legislator, “Exactly how would have any of these proposals prevented the school shooting in CT, and you’ll draw a blank or evasive answer.

To its credit, Magpul Industries has put principal before profits, and made it clear to some degree that Colorado liberals cannot pass these kinds of laws without paying a cost, and law enforcement officers shouldn’t expect special consideration over ordinary citizens. If the rest of us recognize Magpul’s stand and reward them by buying they’re products those sales may tip others in the industry toward the same direction.

Regardless of the consequences (lost jobs and tax revenue) leftist legislators may go forward anyway, but they (and we) will learn the real price when the 2014 mid-term elections come along.
 
Good for them!

I have to say...I called it: http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=8777675&postcount=24 :)

I didn't think of the oath part, but I did say their best move was to "suspend" sales to LEOs in ban states. From the reaction I see in this thread, it was a good idea! Of course sitting on my couch and thinking of it was nothing, I'm glad they made the decision to actually do something.

Like I mentioned in my other post, I don't think they will lose out on any business, and they are sending a message.
 
As a lot of other's have said I appreciate the symbolism of what they are doing. I don't envy them one bit. They are in a difficult position.


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Well, damn. When they announced they'd leave Colorado in protest if stupid legislation was passed I bought a bunch of Ranger Plate doo-dads I didn't need. Now it seems I need to buy a dozen PMAGs I don't need.

Can anyone confirm that the Gen3 work in a SCAR 16s?
 
Ronnie Barrett has pretty much done the same thing and will not even ship to a ban state. Even a repaired firearm will not be returned to ban states.
 
Salute to Magpul!

Seems like I'll have to get off my duff and finally order some of their merchandise. I don't NEED to.. but now .. I WANT to. :)
 
Wait.........

Magpul gets a big Hooray! for this:

The same policy has been in place for 13 years now and has never been an issue until a few days ago. I do not support the idea that individual police officers should be punished for the actions of their elected officials...........I have suspended all LE sales to ban states until we can implement a system wherein any Law Enforcement Officer buying for duty use will have to promise to uphold their oath to the US Constitution
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But Armalite gets chastised for this:

1: We will not sell to those states which deny it’s honorable citizens the right to own ArmaLite’s.

2. We do not halt sales to individual officers even in problematic states. I am a former Police Officer myself, and the staffer who stimulated the recent anger is a currently serving one. We are well familiar with the fact that most rifles serving Police Officers are purchased by the officers themselves, and that they shouldn’t be punished for the actions of their political elite.
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I don't get it................

Don't get me wrong, I love Magpul products and REALLY appreciate what they're doing for us in this state. I just don't understand how so many people, including members here, can cheer Magpul and lambaste Armalite when their policies are nearly identical.

Our own worst enemies. When I see this kind of thing, I realize that our community has just as many pharisees as the anti crowd.
 
This is awesome, and the more companies the better. I think what others have said in other similar threads is right. If we really want to choke this out, we need the big players to get on board. Only when S&W, Glock, Ruger, Colt, and all the Cerberus owned companies get on board will this really have a strong impact. Until then, a state will just buy Colt M4's and use Colt mags (instead of Pmags) with no problem. What we need to do is strongly support the companies that are taking this stand so that the economic incentive is there, for them to reject ban-state contracts.

It can and will have an impact on states tax revenue.
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How would Magpul's refusal to sell magazines to (let's just say for example) the New York State Police, have any impact on NY's state tax revenue?
 
magpul acts like a woman going thru mentalpause. it seems every day I read a statement from them it is opposite from the day before
 
How would Magpul's refusal to sell magazines to (let's just say for example) the New York State Police, have any impact on NY's state tax revenue?
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That`s less taxes the companies have to pay to the state. And less taxes the state generates from sales.
 
I bought $250 worth of Magpul gear today. I feel really good about that after seeing this.
 
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