Hi, I like to run outside about 5 - 5:30 am for 60 - 90 minutes but I am always think about the possibility of encountering an animal I really would not want to encounter. Most animals will run away at the sound I am making when running..the feet falling, the groans & moans of pain LOL, ..but still that thought crosses my mind. And, staying inside to run on a treadmill is not an option for me. Also, running at different times of the day is not an option given my work schedule. Finally, even on my days off and I am outside working around the house exposes me to all types of animals. 4 weeks ago I was out about 11:45 pm going to the generator and I shined the flashlight around and yep, there was something out there staring back at me. I caught the eyes in the flashlight beam. I thought it was a Bobcat but a coworker said it was a Lynx due to the black on the tip of the tail. I got 3 pictures on my game camera @ 6:50 am the next day. So, I have a Remington 870 and a B&D 9 mm, and a Ruger 10-22. What I am looking for is what is best to take with me on my runs, and when outside working on house projects? A sling or scabbord on the back for the 10-22 or the 870? DO I need a different handgun like a 357 in a holster? I am curious what options there are, and no, I am not moving, and no, I am not afraid , I just want to eb as best prepared for possibilities as I can be. The animals we have seen here are: black bear on the back porch (bear went back down the stairs as the wife went screaming the opposite direction back into the house); raccoon trying to get into the house; bull snakes in the house (no rattlers so far but bull snakes sure can make you think they are a rattler and I hope I have all the holes blocked off now so they do not get in); rattlesnakes out behind the hot barbque with a shovel nearby (stupid snakes...not bad tasting on the grill); Deer, Turkey, Bobcat, Lynx, Coyote, and Cougar....about 2 years back had a guy out looking for his hunting dog that took off after the Cougar he had been tracking, and one of our neighbors swore a Cougar (puma to her) was in her backyard one day, and she got real upset with me when I questioned her and suggested it was a Bobcat (Sonny, I KNOW what a Puma is, a Cougar, so don't you tell me what I saw). Yes, Ma'am! LOL We live about 7,000 elevation in the southern Rockies in a very sparsely populated area..only about 15 families. Thanks for the info on slings, scabbords, and maybe even holsters. And, if this is not the correct forum, perhaps someone can move it (moderator).
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Virginian
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I prefer a 3" barrel .357 down here. Unobtrusive and enough power when needed. I usually have snake loads for the first two rounds since that is what I am most likely to encounter. Don't worry about the non-poisonous ones other than being scared to death when one pops out somewhere, but I will go out of my way to pop the others on sight. We have a variety of wildlife, but feral hogs worry me the most.
beatledog7
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Jogging with a shotgun? That's the forum in which this is posted.
Deltaboy1984
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Wheel gun in 357 up.
oneounceload
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Small can of bear spray will do the job with minimal weight and inconvenience - sold through Gander, Cabelas, and others
Bobson
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This (link) is a recent thread about protection while running. IIRC, the general consensus was that some type of OC is the best option. I encourage you to read through it.
For working around the house, a holstered 4" .357 Mag would be reasonably comfortable, and plenty of protection.
For working around the house, a holstered 4" .357 Mag would be reasonably comfortable, and plenty of protection.
Tolkachi Robotnik
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The pumas always jump down from trees or come from behind.
You could carry OC and it would weigh the least, be the least problem. Also low expense.
You could pack a couple extendable batons, the steel jobbies, and get all Sith Lord on whatever. This second option would make you buff faster. I recommend two so that you are balanced on your skeletal frame. You will not have to run as far for a workout packing the batons. You would probably have time to extend them if you weren't pulled down from behind. Of course that is way mountain lions work most of the time, jump down from trees or rocks unexpectedly. People run with small weights in their hands all the time, and those might work if you could throw them accurately, even five pounders would make a dent in a big cat's skull.
Running with a pistol is going to be uncomfortable. It will tug and weight quite a bit. Getting it out of holster will be a problem when the mountain lion already is chewing, you will be distracted and troubled. I do not see the advantage of a firearm. Something lightweight and powerful if you go this route. It will hurt your hands if you fire it.
An airhorn pressured can might be helpful and not weight much. Also a running buddy might be nice. They could try different items and deploy them as necessary. Probably best if they are a little slower than you are, in case you have to sprint to get away.
You could carry OC and it would weigh the least, be the least problem. Also low expense.
You could pack a couple extendable batons, the steel jobbies, and get all Sith Lord on whatever. This second option would make you buff faster. I recommend two so that you are balanced on your skeletal frame. You will not have to run as far for a workout packing the batons. You would probably have time to extend them if you weren't pulled down from behind. Of course that is way mountain lions work most of the time, jump down from trees or rocks unexpectedly. People run with small weights in their hands all the time, and those might work if you could throw them accurately, even five pounders would make a dent in a big cat's skull.
Running with a pistol is going to be uncomfortable. It will tug and weight quite a bit. Getting it out of holster will be a problem when the mountain lion already is chewing, you will be distracted and troubled. I do not see the advantage of a firearm. Something lightweight and powerful if you go this route. It will hurt your hands if you fire it.
An airhorn pressured can might be helpful and not weight much. Also a running buddy might be nice. They could try different items and deploy them as necessary. Probably best if they are a little slower than you are, in case you have to sprint to get away.
Jogging with a shotgun is not reasonable. For your threats, a Glock or M&P with sturdy controlled-expansion JHPs in a good holster would probably be the best choice you can find.
(I think the Non-Firearm Weapons thread was posted by a serious, fast runner, not someone who wants to jog a few miles a week.)
John
(I think the Non-Firearm Weapons thread was posted by a serious, fast runner, not someone who wants to jog a few miles a week.)
John
oneounceload
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Very true - when I lived out West, folks cross country skiing in the Sierras were the targets. The attacks that occurred always were from behind and typically on the last skier
Milkmaster
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.410/45 LC pistol could be an option. I would use a shoulder holster or something different than a waist holster if I were jogging. Maybe you try different setups until you find what is comfortable. Some of the stun guns now are lightweight.
No, a .410/.45 Colt would be a poor option. The .410 rounds available are horrible SD choices against cougars or bears, and those frames are too weak for stout modern .45 Colt loads. A .22 LR might be a worse option, but just barely.
John
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It's hard to beat good advice.
Gunnerboy
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Jogging with a shotgun is quite practical! if your jump shooting ducks 
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I remember jogging with an M-16. Not something I'd do in the civilian world. Certainly wouldn't want to go for a run with a shotgun.
For jogging, I'd go for a compact 9mm, or maybe a J-frame .38 in a shoulder holster. That is if you insist on a firearm. OC spray might be the better option. After jogging, I'm shaky enough, add in the adrenaline dump of encountering a possibly hostile animal, I'd be lucky not to shoot my own foot.
Around the house, puttering around my scant acreage, I tend to carry a single shot 20 gauge. But I'll probably have one of my 9mm pistols on me as well. The 20 gauge is usually loaded with 7.5 shot for the gophers. Wouldn't feel right taking much of anything bigger. We get coon, skunk, possum and the rare coyote that come after the chickens. We don't have a problem with big cats, my own fat cat notwithstanding (fat, fixed, declawed and still takes out birds and field mice on a regular basis), but if we did, the AR or pump action 12 gauge would be strapped instead of the 20 gauge.
For jogging, I'd go for a compact 9mm, or maybe a J-frame .38 in a shoulder holster. That is if you insist on a firearm. OC spray might be the better option. After jogging, I'm shaky enough, add in the adrenaline dump of encountering a possibly hostile animal, I'd be lucky not to shoot my own foot.
Around the house, puttering around my scant acreage, I tend to carry a single shot 20 gauge. But I'll probably have one of my 9mm pistols on me as well. The 20 gauge is usually loaded with 7.5 shot for the gophers. Wouldn't feel right taking much of anything bigger. We get coon, skunk, possum and the rare coyote that come after the chickens. We don't have a problem with big cats, my own fat cat notwithstanding (fat, fixed, declawed and still takes out birds and field mice on a regular basis), but if we did, the AR or pump action 12 gauge would be strapped instead of the 20 gauge.
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