ebay RCBS 10-10 gambled and lost. some corrossion. advice requested

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Took a shot on an older model RCBS on ebay. hoping that I'd come out on the better end. Sadly - That wasn't the case.

I'm missing the check/counter weight (which I totally missed in the photos - so that's my fault) But I don't load anything that heavy, and I have checkweights so no big deal to me anyway.

But there's an issue with the fulcrum knives, it's been stored damp and they're not in the best of shape, they're a little rough feeling and I can see some rust on the inner most portions. The beam seems to move freely and has a steady swing, but zeroing it is a real PITA. it is super super sensitive to the position of the knives with relation to the bearings. it won't "settle" between them. and there's like a .3 grain difference if the beam is nearer the "outboard" bearing vs the "inboard" bearing. driving me nuts.

I sent the seller a message, not complaining - since I bought a used item and I stand by caveat emptor. asking if they're willing to help me get it straightened out.

But to the question - is this a purely "send it in to RCBS" and have them work on it, or is there some basics besides simple cleaning that I can tackle. I've already did the basics like scrub out the bearings with alcohol and compressed air, and cleaned the knife edges best as I could. and I'm very confident of how level the surface is. even tested it on my pool table.

If I send it back in, anyone hazard a guess as to what I can expect to pay for having it refurbed? If I'm out another $50 - I might as well just ask the seller for a refund and go buy a brand new one.
 
If the seller claimed that it does not work properly, then your stuck. But if they said it works good, then you can ask for refund.

i had a whiner this week. he asked me a question before bidding, i told him the asnwer, he won the auction, and got the item, and is whining about that i lied to him. i told him that i would gladly refund his money back, he rebutts to me, by the time i pack it up and go to post office im going to have more money into it than what its worth, so i told him to go USPS.com and do everything from home. he rebutts back, that ive wasted his time, money, and lied to him. by now im laughing because if he would just listen to me, and follow my steps, instead of being out 20.00 all he has to do is send it to me for 2.00 and that is all he out, and i would refund him the 20.00

guess he wants to hand out money, even when people are willing to refund it.
 
OP, I'm almost sure RCBS will refurb that 10-10 at their cost. I don't know how they do it but they do. I sent them a 5-0-5 scale to "fix" where I LOST and beam and pan. I clearly told them in the email and on the phone I lost the parts and they still "fixed" the scale for no charge. The only thing I paid was shipping to them. they even covered the shipping back to me.

Send them an email explaining what's wrong with the scale and see what they will do for you. They probably have the best CS of any company in business today!
 
45lcshooter,
the seller offered a 14 day return in the auction, with me paying the return shipping so it's an option. But after reading some of the comments on an earlier post of mine regarding new vs old construction - I'd kinda like to hang onto an older scale. I figured if I was at least polite about it to the seller - they'd be more inclined to work with me. makes it easier for both of us.

I don't really want to mess with sending it back to him. Call it my own sense of I got what I paid for - and some obsolete obsession with making something I have work. sometimes you just get the itch to do it, even though there's no TVM in it.

If he suggests just shipping it back to him, I'll weigh that against what I hear from RCBS on repairing it.
 
bummer. RCBS wants $75 on top of shipping to refurb it. Might as well just buy brand new at that price. I'll have way more than a new one into it at that point. I doubt the seller would be willing to offer me that much of a refund. Oh well. I tried.
 
If you paid with PayPal, you could file a claim. If the seller didn't actually state "parts missing" you have a legitimate claim. Many ebay sellers don't wand any "black marks" against them as it can affect future sales (I won't buy from a seller with more than two complaints, negative feed backs).

I have cleaned the pivot blades a few times with an ink eraser (not the pink or tan erasers, but the grey stiffer rubber ones). They are mildly abrisive and will remove light rust. A little Kroil on the pivot "socket" and wiped of cleans them pretty good.
 
Well, seller has offered to split the difference with me. Can't really argue with that. Will be sending it in.

Leaves me without a scale again for awhile though. darn it anyhow.
 
Depending on what you paid for it, I would go with the $75 RCBS refurb deal. Those 10-10 are a top notch scale and sell for nearly $200 new. But if you already have $75 or more into it, just take the refund and go buy a new one.

I'm still using a very old 5-10 I bought at a yard sale about 2-1/2 decades ago, and it was probably a good 15 yrs. old, probably older when I bought it, and it's spot on accurate.

GS
 
That, or you could just buy a new 5-0-5 for under a bill and be done with it.

hindsight being what it is, I probably should have gone that way. Got caught up in buying the "big daddy" oh well, live and learn. hopefully the turnaround is fairly quick.

Then again, I could probably sell the scale as is and still reap a fair chunk of change out of it as well I guess.
 
Talk to RCBS first.

They had me send my 5-10 directly to Ohaus in New Jersey for a new beam a few years ago.

rc
 
If you can sharpen a knife, then you can use the same stone to knock the rust off the beam's knife edges and get on with it. All scale knife edges will rust if given a chance. All you're doing by sending it back is delaying the day that you have to learn to do this.
 
you know I thought about that. I'm okay with a knife. not a master, but I can get an edge. I didn't know if i'd wreck it or not. Guess I have nothing to loose
 
if you can sharpen a knife, then you can use the same stone to knock the rust off the beam's knife edges and get on with it.

You sir, are my freaking hero!!

I went out and bought a 10x jewelers magnifier and took a stone to them. wasn't nearly as had as I thought it would be. she works perfect now! Also removed and cleaned the agates, and the beam centers if I tap it. sweetness itself.
 
Good job - another scale bought back to life. When cleaning up the edges it's important to keep the edge straight and not round the tips.

The ends of the edges are cut at a slight angle down to a point so if there is any contact with the bearing end plates the edged pivots around a central point not scribes an ark on the endplate.

I know that's not very well explained but I'll include a couple of pictures. A knife edge with a chipped end will always hang up on the endplates.
 

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