45 Colt T7 Load Very Stout!

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We have recently moved to Colorado and I am somewhat slowly building a new bench with that bloody 'honey-do' list and a degree of ingrained procrastination getting in the way of completion. But I dug out my 45 Colt Lee Loader, brass drop tube, some FFFg T7 and Hornady 255 grs RNFP bullets and made up twenty as a test in my new Rossi 92.

35 grs T7 FFFg, over powder card wad, dollop of lube (40/40/10/10 - beeswax/Crisco/Jojoba oil/oil soap), 255 gr swaged RNFP, Tula LPP.

According to Hodgdon, 15% less T7 should be used to achieve black powder equivalency. I shoot 26 grs T7 FFFg in paper cartridges in my 1858 Remington and Rogers and Spencer replicas and it is perhaps a little punchier than one needs for target shooting but allows the ball to be seated fairly long. The difference between 26/140grs and 35/ 255 grs is remarkable!

Sure, that metal butt plate doesn't help but I would compare it to a full load of 4198 and 320 grs CB in 444 Marlin. It was very stout. Didn't have the Chrony, so I didn't get a velocity. It was very, very thumpy.

Groups were good so no complaints but I need to know velocity. Suspect above 1500 fps.

Great news in other respects. Oil soap added to lube makes cleaning a treat. Cases very easy to wash.

On the
 
Guess it got cut off. I was getting to point that 35 grs T7 is equivalent to the original 40 grs FFFg black pwder in the balloon head case. I certainly would not have wanted to fire that from a hand gun! No wonder they had issues and backed it down. Definitely want the get a velocity read on it.
 
Hodgdon does not recommend FFFg for cartridge, unless they've changed their tune recently.

Like you, I did the same thing, only with .44-40. Hot stuff. I was smacking my 200 yard steel plate with authority for the first five rounds. Then the barrel started leading. Next five shots were all over the place.

I'm glad I didn't try this load in my revolver first.
 
Due to the cylinder gap, the loads would be milder in the revolvers. Look in your reloading manuals. In 44 mag, rifle loads often list smaller powder charges than handguns, due to that pressure loss in the revolvers.
 
Good advice and observations, thank you. I will be shifting to FFg Old Eynsford and @32 -33 grs next load.
 
Yeah, I load 45 Colt with Goex and 777 2F and I really find it to be more pleasant to shoot with Goex. Also you get more and stinkier smoke, not sure if that's a pro or a con.
 
Howdy

Be careful of putting a 'dollop' of lube between your card wad and your bullet.

I found out years ago that if the lube is soft enough, it will glue the wad to the base of the bullet, ruining accuracy. The bullet wobbled like a lopsided dart.

I just put in enough FFg so that it is compressed about 1/16" - 1/8" when the bullet is seated. For 45 Colt I use either the 250 grain Big Lube PRS bullet or the 200 grain J/P -200, lubed with SPG. If you use a bullet with plenty of soft BP compatible bullet lube you don't need to fuss with lube and wads.

With the 250 grain bullet I use 2.2CC of FFg, usually Schuetzen. Works out to about 35 grains.

Fired from revolvers of course.
 
Thanks Driftwood for sharing experience. On lube dollop, I find groups consistent with smokeless "cowboy" loads, no keyholes, and super easy cleaning.
 
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