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It is Snowblind's Thread, Silly.Who are you to tell me "show yourself the door"?? ...
It is Snowblind's Thread, Silly.Who are you to tell me "show yourself the door"?? ...
To be honest, the thing that concerns me most is all the stuff coming up lately about folks not going down despite the extra holes. I've only got 10 rounds, and 10 rounds doesn't feel like a lot if it might take multiple good hits centre mass to stop a threat.My "bump in the night" loadout is a Glock and a flash light. I don't plan to use the light until "its" over. I guess that if 14 rounds makes you feel under gunned an extra mag would be easy enough to store near the Glock.
I've never been in this situation, but would think it would happen quickly with little time to gather a lot of gear. I also hope to not ever be there.
I guess it also depends on what size invasion you might be expecting. That thing a few years ago with the motorcycle gang attacking that family caused me to carry more magazines when traveling!
Do you really want to use pepper spray in your own home? Cleaning it up might be almost as painful as getting hit with it. I sure don't want to have to find out.
If someone is in my house, I am hunkering down and waiting for the police to do this for me.
So, this is the load out you want, and you're justifying it with two very different ends of the spectrum.the load out I'm realistically looking at is pistol (loaded with a mag) + 2 spare mags + pepper spray + phone.
Here are the problems with pepper spray in that scenario: First, you're going to get the pepper spray on yourself as well as the intruder. That's pretty much guaranteed in an enclosed space like rooms in a home. Second, if someone is that drunk (or under the influence of an even more powerful drug), there's a very good chance that they won't be affected by the pepper spray. Ditch the pepper spray. Upgrade your door and window locks so that a drunk or high person can't get inside your residence in the first place. These measures will also slow from entry or perhaps even deter someone with truly malicious intent and buy you time. Motion sensing exterior lights and a dog (if feasible) are additional things that send the message of "wrong place, move along" and they provide early alert if someone chooses not to move along. Our Strategies, Tactics, and Training forum has threads with far more extensive discussion on hardening your home and increasing the level of deterrence. Deterrence and hardening/physical security should be your first steps.I like the idea of pepper spray. ... My pop likes to tell this story from when he ... had a fellow climb right into his apartment bedroom through the window next to his bed. ... it was a fool so drunk he couldn't tell it wasn't his own apartment ...
Inside a home an attacker is almost certainly going to be too close to allow you to safely make a mag change. As much as I know you're better off investing in skill set and physical security, if you're worried about terminal ballistics this much a riot type shotgun or a MA compliant semi-auto carbine is going to give you far better terminal effects than pistol rounds. You can mount a light to either, and reloads for either can be attached the gun itself if you choose.the thing that concerns me most is all the stuff coming up lately about folks not going down despite the extra holes. I've only got 10 rounds, and 10 rounds doesn't feel like a lot if it might take multiple good hits centre mass to stop a threat.
Inside a home an attacker is almost certainly going to be too close to allow you to safely make a mag change.
if you're worried about terminal ballistics this much a riot type shotgun or a MA compliant semi-auto carbine is going to give you far better terminal effects
All this to check out a sound during the night?
You also quickly dismissed a plate carrier
Pfft. Don't drive. Actually, I don't even go outside, you kidding?The ones that are putting this much into this rare scenario, have you had a roll cage, 5 pt harness, and carry helmets for all passengers in your daily driven vehicles? Bc a wreck is only about a million times more likely.
(Also, first post, used to post here under CZ22, recently got back in to shooting/ prepping/ RKBA, good to be back).
Or this bit:
"the load out I'm realistically looking at is pistol (loaded with a mag) + 2 spare mags + pepper spray + phone"
To clarify, my issue seems to be the need for just one more hand. I'd like to be able to do the pistol, 1 or 2 spare mags, and pepper spray, but haven't found a doctor yet that could do a third hand for me.
But understand, going searching for trouble in a dark house is an invitation for disaster. Don't agree? At night have a friend hide in the dark home and then go look for him. Whoever says bang first, wins.
I think of this all the time... I often am tempted to buy a light for my pistol. Then I get to thinking, the bad guy will know EXACTLY where I am!
Use strategically placed nightlights around your house so you don't need a flashlight to locate an intruder, and so you will have dark areas in which to stand while looking.I often am tempted to buy a light for my pistol. Then I get to thinking, the bad guy will know EXACTLY where I am!
And, then:Sounds like what I really need to invest in is proper training.
Ta Da!It's sounding like an understanding of tactics and deterrence might serve me better than some new widget. *shock*
I have no intention of "clearing my house" like some cop wannabe.