Training, shooting Glock pistols; WFTV 9 news report...

RustyShackelford · Apr 8, 2015

On Mon, Apr 06 2015 a 33 year old police officer was killed in central Florida during a firearms training course.

The officer was struck by bullet that was fired from a Glock semi automatic pistol(unknown model, caliber). It went into the officer's upper torso/side & missed the section of body armor.
Another police officer on the range was clearing his pistol, fired the round which then had a ricochet which hit the victim.

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement(FDLE) is now investigating the officer's death. The police officer had been a full time sworn officer since 2012.
WFTV-9, the ABC affiliate in Orlando did a news story explaining how to properly unload a Glock semi auto pistol.
The gun shop employee did a decent job in the video but Id add that you should learn & follow the four basic rules of firearm safety. Keep the pistol muzzle pointed in a safe direction, check both the barrel & the magazine well, inspect the weapon for any damage or dirt, grit, lint, etc.
If a new shooter or new gun owner needs help, encourage them to take formal training classes or check with local NRA, www.nra.org courses.
Id add that all gun owners and armed professionals should read the firearm owner's manual & understand how to handle the new weapon.

Stay alert and aware of other shooters/officers on the range. Do not get in a rush or be in a hurry. :uhoh:

Safety is no accident.

TestPilot · Apr 12, 2015

This has nothing to so with "Glock" if the trigger was deliberately pulled.

Pulling the trigger to clear the pistol is a stupid practice, if you ask me.

BLB68 · Apr 14, 2015

He may have not cleared it properly, then pulled the trigger during field stripping. As I understand it, field stripping a Glock requires a trigger pull.

Librarian · Apr 15, 2015

He may have not cleared it properly, then pulled the trigger during field stripping. As I understand it, field stripping a Glock requires a trigger pull.

Yes, it does: http://us.glock.com/documents/gun_maintenance.pdf; see pages 1 and 2.

Sinsaba · Apr 15, 2015

BLB68 said:
He may have not cleared it properly, then pulled the trigger during field stripping. As I understand it, field stripping a Glock requires a trigger pull.

As do a number of handguns (I'm almost inclined to say most autos). This has nothing to do with it being a Glock

M-Cameron · Apr 15, 2015

As do a number of handguns (I'm almost inclined to say most autos). This has nothing to do with it being a Glock

umm.....i cant think of one other firearm that requires you to pull the trigger to take it down.....

FishEngineer · Apr 15, 2015

M-Cameron said:
umm.....i cant think of one other firearm that requires you to pull the trigger to take it down.....

Walther striker fired pistols. Kahr pistols. Others....

RustyShackelford · Apr 15, 2015

unloaded.....

The big safety point is to inspect or check that a firearm is unloaded. :uhoh:

Loaded guns around other shooters or range cadre is not good.
These officers should clear and check the firearms or only take commands from a authorized rangemaster.

Also, IMO, many gun owners/LE officers have ADs-NDs with semi auto pistols because they do not inspect both the barrel and the magwell, :uhoh:

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Many semi auto pistols do not have magazine safety designs(can only fire with a magazine in place). Security guards, cops, CCW holders etc need to be aware of how their sidearm is designed even if they aren't "into guns" or "don't like guns". :uhoh:

This officer's death was a tragic accident but but like many accidents it could have been avoided.

BLB68 · Apr 15, 2015

Sinsaba said:
As do a number of handguns (I'm almost inclined to say most autos). This has nothing to do with it being a Glock

Your logic is poor, and Glock doesn't need a white knight.

If it was another brand that required a trigger pull to field strip, then the situation would have been the same. Nobody's bashing your sweetheart here. At least I'm not.

The issue is that a lot of times people drop the magazine of a semi-auto then don't clear the chamber when clearing them. That's just plain old stupidity. Combine that with the takedown procedure of a Glock or similar gun, and you have a potential problem.

herrwalther · Apr 16, 2015

M-Cameron said:
umm.....i cant think of one other firearm that requires you to pull the trigger to take it down.....

Springfield XD comes to mind. Something they changed with the XDm and were quite proud of the added feature.

FishEngineer said:
Walther striker fired pistols

Nope. Not on any Walthers I have ever owned or handled.

Regardless, how a firearm breaks down is irrelevant. Complaining about a perceived "flaw" in the breakdown is a cop out in my opinion. Step one of every single firearm when breaking it apart for cleaning is to unload and clear the weapon. No ammo in the gun means there is no chance of it firing when you pull the trigger on that Glock/XD others as part of the breakdown.

RustyShackelford · Apr 16, 2015

post #10, gun safety .....

Safety is no accident.
Post 10 nails it.
To always clear a firearm before disassembly is critical.
To unload and check a firearm before you hand it to someone is smart too.

Firearms are not toys, props, fashion or political statements;

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When you get lax or careless, you will have a ND.

FishEngineer · Apr 17, 2015

herrwalther said:
Springfield XD comes to mind. Something they changed with the XDm and were quite proud of the added feature.

Nope. Not on any Walthers I have ever owned or handled.

Regardless, how a firearm breaks down is irrelevant. Complaining about a perceived "flaw" in the breakdown is a cop out in my opinion. Step one of every single firearm when breaking it apart for cleaning is to unload and clear the weapon. No ammo in the gun means there is no chance of it firing when you pull the trigger on that Glock/XD others as part of the

RustyShackelford · Apr 17, 2015

Points...

I think the unload the firearm point has been discussed and made.
Let's move on to the other issues/factors.
RS

FishEngineer · Apr 17, 2015

FishEngineer said:
herrwalther said:

Springfield XD comes to mind. Something they changed with the XDm and were quite proud of the added feature.

Nope. Not on any Walthers I have ever owned or handled.

Regardless, how a firearm breaks down is irrelevant. Complaining about a perceived "flaw" in the breakdown is a cop out in my opinion. Step one of every single firearm when breaking it apart for cleaning is to unload and clear the weapon. No ammo in the gun means there is no chance of it firing when you pull the trigger on that Glock/XD others as part of the

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Try field stripping a Walther PPQ M2 without pulling the trigger...

RustyShackelford · Apr 17, 2015

Mods/staff...

Mods/staff: please close this topic.
It seems members can't stop discussing a point over and over.
There's no reason to keep this topic open.

Rusty S

Jeff White · Apr 17, 2015

Closed at OPs request.

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