Striking with your loaded pistol?

[beatcop]

 

[Rexster]

At this particular moment in time, buffalo-ing this particular burglar solved this particular problem. Shooting would have been reasonably articulable, IMHO, but the grand jury and criminal court MAY have disagreed. While it is true that striking with a firearm is, legally, deadly force, it is normally better if nobody acquires any new deep holes during an incident, even if deadly force is justified. (I did put a hole through a human being, in the line of duty, and did face a hostile grand jury, even though my opponent had a bludgeon held high, and a knife chambered for a thrust.)

Did this officer make errors? Yes, he made tactical errors. At the one particular moment in time, however, his handgun was a contact weapon-of-opportunity, and became a tool to apply lethal force with a less-than-lethal result. (A head strike is, by definition, lethal force.)

Do I recommend buffalo-ing felons? No, of course not. Just saying it worked this once.

 

[freyasman]

At this particular moment in time, buffalo-ing this particular burglar solved this particular problem. Shooting would have been reasonably articulable, IMHO, but the grand jury and criminal court MAY have disagreed. While it is true that striking with a firearm is, legally, deadly force, it is normally better if nobody acquires any new deep holes during an incident, even if deadly force is justified. (I did put a hole through a human being, in the line of duty, and did face a hostile grand jury, even though my opponent had a bludgeon held high, and a knife chambered for a thrust.)

Did this officer make errors? Yes, he made tactical errors. At the one particular moment in time, however, his handgun was a contact weapon-of-opportunity, and became a tool to apply lethal force with a less-than-lethal result. (A head strike is, by definition, lethal force.)

Do I recommend buffalo-ing felons? No, of course not. Just saying it worked this once.

That cop was lucky; that guy could have easily died, and that cop would most likely have been screwed. On the other side of things, a cop who is so out of shape that approximately a minute of fighting in the standing clinch (with a guy who seemed to have zero skills) left him so gassed that he couldn't even stand up straight, or cuff the guy, is a guy who needs to either get his butt to the gym and start doing some combatives training, or retire from patrol work. Because if he runs into anyone the least bit serious, they're going to have that LEO for dinner.

 

[Bad Ninja]

"Oww..you knocked my teeth out!"


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