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61, didn't mean to nitpik, but hollywood has shown actors allowing them to cook for a couple seconds for dramatic effect. Just don't want some young recruit who watched too many movies blowing himself up. Although when they train with M-67's they learn real quick that those suckers are something...

61, that's 3-5 sec. Letting an M-67 cook for a sec. doesn't give you much time if you get a quick one.

Here's a list of a few things you fund when you buy one these Chinese copies # 23-2K, a version of the Nudelman-Rikhter NR-23 # Type 56, a clone of the Russian AK47 # QBZ-95, an assault rifle # QBB 95, a squad automatic weapon version of the QBZ-95 # Norinco Type 63 Light Amphibious Tank #...

Max, you said this gun is made by Hawk, I've provided you with links showing that Hawk and Norinco are one in the same. In case you didn't want to read the listing I posted, here's the part that pertains to the shotgun you are talking about. Common Name: Model 37 M&P (YL12-1JZ) Calibre...

You might want to read this thread also. http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1935748

You might want to read about some of the weapons this Co. makes and who they do business with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco Norinco owns Hawk. http://www.guncity.co.nz/12ga-norinco-98-with-p-grip-sliding-stock-xidp165671.html You'll have to scroll about 2/3 of the way down to see...

The late Jeff Cooper this technique. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambique_Drill

Just trying to show that there's other options. That will enable someones sight to be effective day or night, not just day.

I use my gun for home defense mostly, so I put a Laser/Light combo for use at night and I'll use open sights for daylight. This was taken with no light, except the light on the gun. The Laser is aimed just about where someones heart would be. The lasers is round, the odd shape is from me...