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1,000 yard rifle?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Mark-Smith, Dec 11, 2010.

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  1. Mark-Smith

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    If you were going to build a useful rifle that could hit a target at 1,000 yards with decent accuracy day in and day out, at the best intersection of cost vs utility - what would you use?

    Caliber?

    Optics?

    Stock?

    Barrel?

    Receiver?

    Trigger?
     
  2. esheato

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    How much do you want to spend? And the gun is the cheap part in this equation....match ammo over time will dwarf the initial hardware cost.
     
  3. Mark-Smith

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    As little as possible while not cutting out the 'hit something at 1,000 yards that you're aiming at'.
     
  4. PzGren

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    Hit what? A Dinty Moore can?:D
     
  5. Mark-Smith

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    A coyote?
     
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    Caliber? .260 Rem

    Optics? Nightforce 5.5-22X56

    Stock? B&C Adjust Tactical

    Barrel? Kreiger

    Receiver? Surgeon

    Trigger? Timney

    You're looking at a good $4,500.00 to $5,000.00 for such a custom-built rifle all set-up. If you need to hit a coyote at 1,000 yards, save your money and get a course on stalking game, then buy an off-the-shelf rifle.

    JMHO.

    Geno
     
  8. Skylerbone

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    That Geno got some spensive taste but that combo he whipped up do look tasty! At my skill level, even after 30 years of shooting won't allow for 1,000 yard shots but I've never practiced for them either. I found the "ground pound" technique of walking off 800 of those yards to be an easier, less skills intensive method for dealing with distance. Other guys could probably make that shot after rolling down the truck window (and spending years with the rifle and scope to make it possible).
     
  9. coug

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    optics/ vortex

    barrel/ heart

    action/ Remington 700

    stock/ HS presision

    base/rings/ lupold MK IV

    trigger/ jewel or timiny

    case/ 6.5X47 or 6.5x284

    im sure this will do and if you have the action already it will only cost around $1800/$2000 total set up.
     
  10. USSR

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    I have had 2 rifles built specifically for 1,000 yard F Class shooting. The first was a .30-06, and the second was a 6.5x55. While the .30-06 is and always will be a fine choice for such shooting when using a heavy bullet such as the 190SMK, the recoil generated as compared to the smaller and flatter shooting 6.5's takes a bit of the "fun" out of it. There are several good choices in in 6.5mm such as 6.5x55, .260, 6.5x47, 6.5-.284, and 6.5-06. What is important is that you get a good barrel and smith, and lay in some quality Lapua brass.

    Caliber? 6.5x55

    Optics? Leupold 6.5-20X LR

    Stock? McMillan

    Barrel? Krieger

    Receiver? Winchester or Remington

    Trigger? Jewell

    Buying a used rifle for the action and selling off all the other parts, reduces your initial outlay substantially. Then pick up the parts you want on your rifle when they are being sold by individuals or are on sale. With a little patience, you can have a very respectable 1,000 yard rifle assembled for in the neighborhood of $2000 sans scope.

    Don
     
  11. Jim Watson

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    A friend just finished such a rifle. He has a Barnard action with trigger, and a Broughton barrel. I don't know the brand of stock. Nightforce BR scope. His is a .308 for F-T/R but you could get a 6.5 or 7mm and cut down on windage.
     
  12. Soupy44

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    I've shot high power matches at 1000y with a Remington 40X in .308. Using match ammo, on a calm day, I had no trouble keeping it in the 10 ring which I believe was 2ft in diameter. On a windy day though, it can be a crap shoot.

    I don't know how well you'll be able to make a sheap 1000y gun.
     
  13. coug

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    you can do all of this or go buy a savage in 6.5x284 and for most of us get the same results. but you spent about a thousand less. the only real problem in doing this is that you loose all bragging rights:) that being said I have my bragging guns and my savage guns. the only good thing about not being able to have all your rifles custom built, I can't seem to tell any difrence on paper from my customs and my savage rifles oon paper:)
     
  14. HKGuns

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    There's a whole bunch of rifles that can shoot a thousand yards. At that range it's the shooter, not the rifle, who will be the problem. Someone who practices and hand loads could likely make that shot with an off the rack bolt action. Someone who's never taken that shot before couldn't do it with the most expensive gear money can buy.

    That is my 2 cents, feel free to disagree.
     
  15. Kachok

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    A 1,000 yd rifle on the cheap. OK here you go, choice of action is simple a used Savage 110 the action is as strong as anything in the buisness and with it's barrel nut design and floating bolt face there simply is not a better set up to start with. $175 at the local pawn shop.
    For caliber I would choose somthing very fast with very high BC, 7mm rem mag, 270 WSM, 7mm WSM, 6.5-284, 243 WSSM, 300 Win mag. I would probably perfer one of the short actions because their microscopic advantage make a visiable difference at 1,000 It all depends on what I am hitting at 1,000 yards :)
    Optics Millett or Mueller target scopes in the range of 25-32 power. The 6-25x56 with 1/10 MOA adjustments is about as accurate as anything out there for only $450 if I was trying to do this on the super cheap though the Mueller Eraticator 8.5-25x 50m is right around $200
    For the barrel a long and thick Shilen is a solid choice for $300
    For triggers a good Timney is a worthwhile investment of $125
    For a stock I would have to go with the Choate Ultimate Sniper stock if I were on a tight budget. under $200
    There you have it a super 1,000yd rifle for right around $1,000. Whie this is will probably not win you any gold medals it will win you plenty of bets/free lunches if your hunting buddy is the betting type :)
     
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    I agree. every savage I have owned is a better than .5 min rifle. you can spend all the money you want and it just don't get any better. but you can make them shoot long strings better.
     
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    Agree very much on the Sako......even their hunting rifle triggers break like glass right out of the box.

    I've not shot one of the newer Winchesters, but the one's I own currently, there is no comparison on the quality of the triggers out of the box.

    But, again, it is a matter of knowing your rifle and its performance or quirks. It isn't easy to shoot with a crappy trigger at 1000 yards, but it can be done.
     
  19. coug

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    hey not a bad deal. this guy won't know what way to go lots of great options. oh by the way. I didn't get off in time to go get my new tika yesterday. I hope maybe monday. they are closed on weekends im at work anyway.
     
  20. Kachok

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    I think everybody know about my love affair with Tikka/Sako but for a budget buildup I would stick to the savages since aftermarket for Tikka/Sako is few, far between, and expensive once you find it. Now if this thread was all about making the perfect long range lightweight hunting rifle my buildup would look somthing like this.
    Buy a T3 270 WSM
    Put a Nikon scope one it.
    There you are the perfect hunting rifle buildup :evil:
     
  21. jpwilly

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    Caliber? 6.5x284 NORMA

    Optics? Nightforce BR 12-42x56mm

    Stock? Laminated OEM

    Barrel? Savage OEM

    Receiver? Savage Target

    Trigger? Accutrigger OEM

    Cost, rifle Savage Model 12 F Class $1400 Optics $1300 + Mount and rings...good luck!
     
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    Things don't sit still and 1000 yds flight time means possibility of a bad hit :(
     
  24. Redneck with a 40

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    7mm mag, 24" heavy barrel. The BC on 7mm bullets is awesome, its fast and flat.
     
  25. Trent

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    My first 1000 yard hits were on a stock Savage 112 in 300 Win Mag, stainless fluted barrel, with a Leupold 6-12x scope.

    The barrel finally wore out this year; fouls up after only a few shots due to throat erosion. In 2008 my ammo load technique and shooting technique both peaked, and I was able to shoot an average of .92" groups at 300 yards over the course of the year (unfortunately the farmer passed away, where I had longer range access, so now 300 is the longest I can go..). This was on the factory barrel, the only modification I made besides refining the ammo load over time was the addition of an Ultimate Sniper stock. (Goofy name, great stock!).

    This year I hit the 2000 round mark through the factory barrel, and I now have to clean it every 3 shots to remove fouling in order to hold ANY sort of decent group. Even with this tedious extra step, I get occasional fliers from crown wear.

    The weapon is currently stripped and waiting for Krieger. New barrel should be fitted by June 2011 (they have quite the backlog for fitting actions).
     
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