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10mm Revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Jick42, Dec 2, 2003.

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  1. Jick42

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    I was just going over all the 10mm i could think of out there and all i could come up with in revovlers were 2.
    The Ruger Single-Action Blackhawk, and the Smith & Wesson Model 610.
    My question is WHY???
    With such an awsome cartridge, why not more in Revolvers?
    I mean i would love to see a Ruger GP100 in a 10mm, or a Taurus Raging Bull, a Colt, on a Python or Anaconda Frame. I realize thats about the just of the makers who would probably do one in a revolver, but wouldn't it be great. So, lets hear your thoughts on this!!!
     
  2. Jeeper

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    I think that it really comes down to

    What is the point?

    First off rimless is harder to do in a revo. You either use headspacing or moonclips. That is a big downside to start off. Next is 10mm was never a big seller in autos much less in revo's. I like the 45 revo personally but a 10mm seems rather useless for most people. I dont think they are big sellers. I think most go to competition shooters. I really just dont see a market. It costs a lot of money to tool up to make this stuff. I want a 610 and 625 personally but I doubt most people would since there are close equivalets already. THe 41 is just over the power of a 10.
     
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    I believe there are more 10mm fans out there than what people realize. I believe a revolver other than the model 610 has a place. Your right, its just not in a high demand in a revolver form. But the more people i talk to, the more people, wish more manufacturers made them in the Semi-Auto. But as far as a revolver goes, i myself would sure pay for a couple different models offered up in the 10mm.
     
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    I think that the kick right now is the MORE POWER crap. These big guns like the 500 S&W seem to be where the market is. Taurus went that wasy with the raging bull also. I like the 610 becuase it would be great to shot 40 in it. I shoot to much 40 to mess around with having 10mm brass mixed in.
     
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    I like my 610 but wish I had purchased a 625 instead. I have thought of boring out my 610 to a 10mm mag. But have not done it yet.
    Pat
     
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    Jick42, why bother. The 10mm is a good semi auto cartridge. In a revolver the 41 magnum has a lot more to offer both in heavy and light loads. In its best loads the 10mm is up there with some of the lower 41 mag loads, but it never reaches the 41 in its better loads.

    I'd like a ten but if I get one it will be a G20. In a revolver I'd get a 657 S&W in 41 mag rather than the 610.
     
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    I also think there are A LOT of 10mm fans out there- especially concerning revolvers.

    They tend to fly out of the stores and off dealers tables in my area. Just TRY to find a 3" or 5" S&W 610.

    I would love a Bisley grip Blackhawk with a 4 5/8" barrel in 10mm.
    That would be a great packin pistol and all around woods bumming gun.
     
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    An N-frame is a big gun. I would like to see it in an L Frame. Then it would seem more practical. I have two 610s, one 5" and one 6.5". I love them both, but the 10mm doesn't NEED an N Frame in my opinion. The reality is, much more power is available in the N frames: .41, .44, .45 Colt. However I love the 10mm and feel there is a bigger market than people think. Not as big as the 9mm, 40, .45 crowds but a loyal following nonetheless. Smith should make their new .40 revolver with a steel cylinder in 10mm. I also like the idea of a Ruger and a Taurus.
     
  9. Sean Smith

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    Although .41 Magnum offers more power than 10mm Auto, the 610 has the great advantage that there is actually affordable factory ammo for it... just load .40 S&W in the moon clips and shoot for cheaper than dirt all day long. Bulk .40 S&W is alot cheaper than anything but 9mm.

    Furthermore, you can handload 10mm Auto to >1.260" OAL in a 610 and get darn close to equal to .41 Magnum loads up to 220 grains, which is something you can't do with 10mm autoloaders.

    The 610, at least the one I had, was extremely accurate, even with .40 S&W.l
     
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    Smith makes a six-shot .40 revolver, either a K or and L frame. If they can make a 7-shot .357 on an L-frame, I don't see why they can't make a six shot 10mm.

    For $500, you can get a Ruger GP100 converted to 10mm. Needs custom moon clips, though.
     
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    For $500, you can get a Ruger GP100 converted to 10mm. Needs custom moon clips, though.
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    Ouch thats more than the cost of the revolver. I would just say your better off using hot 357 mag ammo rather than going though the expense of converting a good 357 mag.
    Pat
     
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    Who does the GP100 conversion? Do you have one or know someone that does?

    I have heard of the Ruger Vaquero converted to 10mm but not the GP100.
     
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    Thats alot of $$$$ for a conversion. Now i know i said i'd pay for a revolver chambered in the 10mm, but not a $400.00 revolver, then a $500.00 smith job. Yikes!! I mean i could get my Colt Boa for that kinda money, :what: !!
     
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    I am having my M646 converted to 10mm.
    Let you know when it gets back.
    I also have the M610.
     
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    Hey Nightcrawler. Did you have this done to one of your guns? If so, how did it turn out?
     
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    Oh no, I don't even have a GP100. But, Clements Custom has a very good reputation.
     
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    Thanks. I just went to there site. Not bad looking at all. And the prices arent really that bad either. Still, paying for a revolver, and then paying to have it converted takes a chunk out of the ol wallet in a hurry. But as i read through there site, looks as if they do some fine work.
     
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    A single action revolver makes more sense for the 10mm. headspacing and ejection would be no problem, no clips to mess with, and a blackhawk frame would soak up the recoil very nicely. Mabey a nice winter project for conversion. The 10mm is very popular here in the great white north (Minn). The colder it gets, the more people gravitate twords full power handguns. With the .40 S&W having more and more problems, mabey the FBI had it right the first time with the 10mm. Higher performance at equal pressures, or equal performance at lower pressures.
     
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    no clips to mess with
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    The beauty of auto pistol rounds in revolvers is the clips. They make the revolver much faster to reload. For plinking its more of a pain I agree.
    Pat
     
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    .41 Magnum might be better than 10MM... but out here where I am... You can't find any .41 Magnum. Not a box.
    This gives 10MM a huge advantage because it is all over the place. Go figure. I don't know why - but its true.
     
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    The cheapest I ever found .41 Mag in a store was on sale, $20.00 per fifty rounds. Normally it's closer to thirty bucks.

    Georgia Arms has good deals on both .41 and 10mm, naturally.

    But, ammo expense is the primary reason I've sold my Model 57.
     
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    moon clips

    a big plus is you can load them a week a head of time shoot dump your brass and pick it of faster than anybody else.you pick it up 6 at a time.if your shooting a match you will be the only one that does not loose any brass at all,thanks,keith
     
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    Yep, that's my sticking point too. If I'm going to have a gun the size of an N-frame I'l want it in a cartridge like .44 Mag or .45 Colt.

    At least one L-frame conversion has been done but I forget who exactly did it. Seemed like an easy job so we know Smith could do it if they wanted.
     
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    I'm with 355sigfan. Just use a .357 mag. It can be plenty powerful enough, find ammo anywhere, have a ton of ammo choices, hold 5-8 in a cylinder, don't use moon clips and are available in the J, K and L frames. What more do you want? OH, more power? Buy a .41 or .44 mag.
     
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