Trey Veston
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Nothing to add except this thread is a reminder that I'm too lazy/busy to own a 1911, lol.
115gr vs 124gr
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How well do the springs in the mags work ? IME, when there's a FTF/FTE problem, generally it's a mag issue, most of the time.
Some guns come from the factory with garbage springs, especially, for some reason, mag springs. Do they bind up, or stick, as you
load or unload bullets?
Some guns come from the factory with garbage springs, especially, for some reason, mag springs. Do they bind up, or stick, as you
load or unload bullets?
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Crazy Horse
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It doesn't seem to bind. I purchases another magazine to see how that one works. I did notice that the spent cases don't seem to extract with the vigor that my 45 1911's or my other 9mm for that matter.
I'll be going back to the range today to try out the magazine as well as different brand 124 grain ammo. I'll be paying close attention to the extraction to see how much force is in the extraction.
THX
I'm not really a 1911 guy and I'm not familiar with the ATI or any other 9mm 1911. My only 1911 is a Ruger in .45 acp. I did a quick search on an ATI 9mm 1911. Looking at the picture it appears to have an internal extractor. Have you checked your extractor tension. I ask because when I first got my SR 1911 it wasn't having failure to ejects but I was getting hit in the head with the ejected brass. I adjusted the extractor tension & it has worked as it should since. It may not be the problem but checking it is less expensive than buying more mags or burning up a large amount of ammunition.
Here is a link to a tutorial.
https://www.m1911.org/technic2.htm
https://www.m1911.org/technic2.htm
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Mike J.
Thanks. I'll do that. The ejection is different than everything else I own in that it seems weak. Instead of rejecting to the right and slighty rear, it either goes up, or right and forward. In either case it doesn't seem to go out with much force.
I have however purchased a Chip Mcormick magazine as most folks have recommended that magazine for the 9mm 1911. Let's see how things progress.
Thanks. I'll do that. The ejection is different than everything else I own in that it seems weak. Instead of rejecting to the right and slighty rear, it either goes up, or right and forward. In either case it doesn't seem to go out with much force.
I have however purchased a Chip Mcormick magazine as most folks have recommended that magazine for the 9mm 1911. Let's see how things progress.
Good Luck!
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Update.
I polished the feed ramp and took the 1911 9mm back to the range. I fired 115 grain Magtech ammunition and all 50 rounds fired without any jams.
I had to wait until my Wilson Combat magazine came in before trying the 124 grain ammunition. That gave me time to really clean things up with my sonic cleaner. Additionally, I compared the spring with my 1911 45 acp Commander spring for sizing. I noticed the spring on my 9mm Commander was about a 1/4 of an inch shorter than the one on the 45. So I took a spring that was the same length at 14 lbs and installed it on the 1911 9mm.
I received my Wilson Combat magazine and took a trip to the range along with 40 rounds of Magtech 115gr, 30 rounds of Winchester 124gr, 115gr of Berrys (pated) and Brazos precision (hiteck coated) bullets. as well as 40 rounds of Acme 124gr (hitek coated) bullets.
Outcome:
The Magtech 115gr bullets all fired without jamming on both the Wilson Combat and Act Mag. All the Winchester 124gr bullets fired without jamming from either magazine. Berrys 115gr plated bullets all fired without jamming. However, both types of hitek coated bullets jammed (Brazos precision 115gr and Acme 124 gr) on both the ACT Mag and Wilson Combat Mag.
The end result was favorable. Now my ATI 1911 9mm will fire 115gr and 124gr factory ammo without jamming. The only limitation is that the bullets have to be plated or FMJ. Reloads that use coated Lead will not function, which while disappointing is ok. At least now I can fire 124gr factory ammo without a jam. On the upside 115gr ammunition which is cheaper cycles excellent.
Maybe as time progresses and the parts start to wear, things will change, but for now I'm happy.
Below are photos of my groupings as well as the ATI 1911 9mm with the full length guide rod.
I polished the feed ramp and took the 1911 9mm back to the range. I fired 115 grain Magtech ammunition and all 50 rounds fired without any jams.
I had to wait until my Wilson Combat magazine came in before trying the 124 grain ammunition. That gave me time to really clean things up with my sonic cleaner. Additionally, I compared the spring with my 1911 45 acp Commander spring for sizing. I noticed the spring on my 9mm Commander was about a 1/4 of an inch shorter than the one on the 45. So I took a spring that was the same length at 14 lbs and installed it on the 1911 9mm.
I received my Wilson Combat magazine and took a trip to the range along with 40 rounds of Magtech 115gr, 30 rounds of Winchester 124gr, 115gr of Berrys (pated) and Brazos precision (hiteck coated) bullets. as well as 40 rounds of Acme 124gr (hitek coated) bullets.
Outcome:
The Magtech 115gr bullets all fired without jamming on both the Wilson Combat and Act Mag. All the Winchester 124gr bullets fired without jamming from either magazine. Berrys 115gr plated bullets all fired without jamming. However, both types of hitek coated bullets jammed (Brazos precision 115gr and Acme 124 gr) on both the ACT Mag and Wilson Combat Mag.
The end result was favorable. Now my ATI 1911 9mm will fire 115gr and 124gr factory ammo without jamming. The only limitation is that the bullets have to be plated or FMJ. Reloads that use coated Lead will not function, which while disappointing is ok. At least now I can fire 124gr factory ammo without a jam. On the upside 115gr ammunition which is cheaper cycles excellent.
Maybe as time progresses and the parts start to wear, things will change, but for now I'm happy.
Below are photos of my groupings as well as the ATI 1911 9mm with the full length guide rod.
None of the 1911's I've bought In the last 25 years have needed anything to reliably handle any round I put in them. But they were .45 ACP and most of them have never shot SWC. Just FMJ RN & TC and JHP.
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I'm with you. I have 3 1911 firearms apart from the 9mm 1911. As you said, I haven't had any issues with rounds I put through them. I have shot LSWC ammo through my RIA 1911 and haven't had any issues with that. The trick with LSWC is the COAL. If it's too short it will give feed issues. I'll be running LSWC in the near future in my ATI 1911's to see how it works. I like the nice round holes LSWC ammo makes on targets, but my Shield45 is finicky and I had to find a COAL that would work on it. I have since found some RNFP 200gr ammo that works well on my Shield45, but I think I'm going to go strictly with 230gr LRN. It hasn't given me any problems whatsoever, it's easy to find, and it consistently performs well.
The 9mm 1911 though, up until today, I could not reliably fire 124gr ammunition. As others have noted, sometimes a firearm will just not work with certain types of ammo. I just kept at it (apart from my OCD), because I like 124gr ammo not to mention it's what is used as standard ammo in other parts of the world. All my other 9mm's cycle 124gr with no issues......
What I really enjoy about the 1911 platform is that you can gunsmith and get it working to your liking. The platform has been around so long that aftermarket parts are plentiful. That's what drew me to the 1911 as I enjoy tinkering with handguns and personalizing them.
Posting them on this forum is a way to help others see what works and what doesn't.
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