168 gr Berger Load for CZ-550 Varmint, 308

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OK, so here are the results of Sunday's range session, working up a 168 gr 308 Win load for the CZ-550 Varmint, .308 Win, 25.5" barrel, 1/12" twist. Moderate, variable winds. 77F, Baro 30.01 in, Humidity?.

Shooting from a front sport rest and rear bag, off the bench. Two identical target boards were placed at 100 yards and 200 yards down range. A third large paper target at 200 yards was used, shooting a couple of loads I already knew, just to make sure I was on paper before starting. I was testing both the Berger 168 VLD Hunter and the Nosler 165 Partition, but concentrated on the Berger because it seemed the more accurate round.

1. Getting on paper at 200 yards. The 3-shot Nosler group is about 3 in, for scale.

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2. These were the target boards at 200 and 100 yards. The best Nosler 165 gr groups were the #3 targets. The Berger 168 gr groups are the 200 yard targets #4, #5 and #6, 8, 10 groups. The #6 target 200 yard group was the tightest - using 42.0gr of Varget. There are actually 4 shots in the #6, not 3. I followed with a 3-shot group of the same load at 100 yards, target #6. Both 100 yd 3-shot and 200 yd 4-shot groups were sub-MOA

200 yard board:
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100 yard board:
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3. I repeated another 3-shot group with the same round at 200 yards, target #8 -- same results. So, I plotted the results of all 7 200 yard POI's on a single target, #6. I came up with an average of the POI's, being 2 inches low and 1.5 inches right at 200 yards.

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4. I then carefully rested the rifle on the bag and set the cross hairs on the bullseye of the #10 target at 200 yards. I carefully corrected the point of aim from the center of the bull to the center of the POI, effectively moving the POI up 2" and left 1.5". I fired two more shots at target #10 at 200 yards, both were in the bull, sub-MOA. I fired a third round at target #10 at 100 yards. The POI was about 2" high and slightly left. The 100 yard POI is plotted on the 200 yard target. Note that these 3 photos are rotated 90 deg. to fit the screen

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The recipe for the Berger 168 gr VLD Hunting for the CZ-550 V is 42.0 grains of Varget, CCI 200 large rifle primer and seated to the minimum depth to allow the rounds to be fed into the magazine, COL 2.75", which also gives full length contact of the shank of the bullet with the cartridge neck.

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I have 3 more of these loads from my original work up batch -- they go in the magazine and with me on my upcoming hog hunt.

Entering the data on the bullet, rifle and conditions (G7, bullet length, rate of twist, scope 1.5 in above bore zeroed at 200 yards, etc.), I played with the external ballistics program and found out that a muzzle velocity of 2650 FPS reproduced a POI +2" at 100 yards, which seems to be about right for the load. That puts the 168 gr round POI within +/- 2" elevation of the point of aim out to about 235 yards with MOA accuracy or better. It should do the trick if I do my part. :bthumb:

BTW, as you can see, the Nosler 165 Partition over 44.4 grains of Varget or 42.0 gr of Vit N140 wasn't bad, but it was neither as accurate nor as flat shooting as the 168 gr Berger, which means the Berger is retaining better down range energy, and the rifle is now zeroed for the Berger, not the Nosler.
 
I think that you will find another accurate node if you keep stepping that load up. You are in the middle range right now.
 
You are close to a node, but will need to up your charge between .3 and .6 grains. I have found that 2.830 is short enough to feed from my CZ550 magazine. I can load them longer, but the magazine won't reliably feed if they are longer.

Good luck.

I have found the Sierra 175 SMK and 43.3 grains of RL15 works really well at that COAL. This with Lapua Brass.

HTH.
 
I used the fine adjustment on the seating die to seat just deep enough so as not to have the bullet touch the front of the mag and then measured COL -- I will double check that number.

I have also gotten fairly adept at single loading the Mauser action by loading from the breech and pushing the bullet into the box mag when bench shooting, so at least for targets, I could surely load closer to the lands.

Somewhere in my notes, right after I got the rifle, I measured the depth to seat to the lands and followed the procedure suggested on the Berger web site to find the optimal seating depth, but wasn't able to see any substantial improvement when seating closer to the lands than magazine-lenght. Have you had a different experience with your 550?

I will try going up a few tenths with the Varget and may consider revisiting seating depth, but at my skill level, I don't know that a fine adjustment in the load will translate to a better grouping. In any case, I was pretty darned happy with the current results. "Even better" can sometimes be the enemy of "very good". I hope the hogs will never know the difference. :D
 
I used the fine adjustment on the seating die to seat just deep enough so as not to have the bullet touch the front of the mag and then measured COL -- I will double check that number.

I have also gotten fairly adept at single loading the Mauser action by loading from the breech and pushing the bullet into the box mag when bench shooting, so at least for targets, I could surely load closer to the lands.

Somewhere in my notes, right after I got the rifle, I measured the depth to seat to the lands and followed the procedure suggested on the Berger web site to find the optimal seating depth, but wasn't able to see any substantial improvement when seating closer to the lands than magazine-lenght. Have you had a different experience with your 550?

I will try going up a few tenths with the Varget and may consider revisiting seating depth, but at my skill level, I don't know that a fine adjustment in the load will translate to a better grouping. In any case, I was pretty darned happy with the current results. "Even better" can sometimes be the enemy of "very good". I hope the hogs will never know the difference. :D
Very nice. It is just fine as it is, and you should be proud of your accomplishment . Good shooting!
 
Stub: thanks. Check this out


Posted at a couple of other places I sometimes hang out, but felt pretty proud of the results, so I will share here, too.

"Jump testing" on the CZ-550 Varmint, as per instructions in the Berger reload manual. Should have done this long before.

Here are today's range results. Loads are brand-spankin' new Lapua brass, CCI-BR2 large rifle primers, 42.0 grains of Varget, with Breger 168 VLD Hunting bullets seated at 4 depths: Touching the lands, a jump of 0.0040, 0.0080 and 0.120 inches, +/- a bit -- didn't measure each individual load after setting the depth on the first cartridge of each group. Didn't do anything to the new brass but inspect the necks for dings (none) prime, and load.

Six of each seating depth or "jump" were loaded identically. They were fired at 4 separate targets, shooting in sequence so that all four seating depths were fired once, one at each target, and then the cycle repeated. Three sighter rounds of the same bullet and load, seated to the maximum length of the magazine were fired as sighters from a cold, clean barrel. The first shot was the highest of the 3 sighters (ignore the 3 .223 sighters). The 24 shots for seating depth were then shot at moderate, steady rate with no more than about 30 seconds between shots. The barrel was hot to the touch by the end of all 27 rounds, with some visible mirage.

Winds were light and variable. Temp, 90F, Humidity 51%.

The test targets are numbered #6, #7, #8, #9

Drum roll . . .

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The 1st, cold shot was high. No change in the scope settings before starting the jump testing.

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Want to guess which was which?

#6 COL = 2.227, jump 0.120
#7 COL = 2.267, jump 0.080
#8 COL = 2.307, jump 0.040
#9 COL = 2.307, seated at lands

0.530", CTC at 100 yards

I then let the barrel cool for about 20 minutes. With the rifle benched and the crosshairs at the center of the POA of target #9, I re-zeroed the scope, dialing in the crosshairs to the POI, and then dialed the POA down 2 inches for zero at 200 yards.

The next 5 shots were this 5-shot group at 200 yards, target #16. The 3 shots high on the target are not from this group.

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1.050", CTC at 200 yards. Pretty darned close to 1/2 MOA with a factory stock CZ off a non-competition rest with a 2# Timney triger.

These were 168 gr VLDH over 42.3 Varget, Lapua Brass, CCI BR4 primers, COL 2.283, jump 0.0064 if my math is correct. This is max for the CZ agazine, but these were single loaded. This is the load that I had previously identified as the best performing load for the CZ with Hornady brass. I wonder what this load would have done touching the lands at 200 yards, or with the CZ's factory single set trigger back in, or off a better front rest with a skid plate on the fore stock. The answer to how much better that might get will have to wait for the next round of range testing, but I am well pleased with today's results. I am closing in on about the best this rifle and I can do. Look forward to seeing what the reloaded, once fired Lapua brass with do, seated at the lands (maybe even jammed a bit?) with a load of 42.3 of Varget.

Much more data from today, but most of it from testing .223 loads using H322 powder and Hornady 68 grain BTHP match and new Lapua brass with the CZ-527 Varmint. Will save that for another post, another tme. Nothing as conclusive as the seating depth from lands testing with the 308, though.

The 100 yard board
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The 200 yard board
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The bench
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BTW, the bench photo is with my 223 CZ-527 Varmint, not the 308.

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