1858 Remington

Blackpowderwarrior said:
Did each chamber index and line up correctly with the bore?
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I put a wire camera down the barrel with the Pietta cylinder in the SB revolver. the line up is not correct. not 100%. a good gunsmith will be able to sort. I think it has to do with the timing on the back of the cylinder were the hand moves the cylinder. Looks like the cylinder stop and cylinder stop notch will need attention as well. The pietta cylinder fits into the SB and dry shoots. I measured the two cylinders and the Pietta is 0,1mm longer than the SB. hope this all makes sense. to me with the new Pietta that I bought it is not worth changing my SB for a conversion cylinder.
 
Hi Guys, just to let you know. I got my Howell Conversion 45 LC 6 shot Pietta cylinder. fits perfectly but timing is off for sure. Cylinder chambers do not line up with the barrel.
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I would hope the bolt is not locked in. I can't tell from the picture how it's indexed. The hand could be short, which is pretty common, it's a relatively easy fix. The fun part is getting the cartridge cylinder and the cap and ball cylinder both to work. My bench is currently clear if anyone is needing some work done.
 
Jackrabbit1957 said:
I would hope the bolt is not locked in. I can't tell from the picture how it's indexed. The hand could be short, which is pretty common, it's a relatively easy fix. The fun part is getting the cartridge cylinder and the cap and ball cylinder both to work. My bench is currently clear if anyone is needing some work done.
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Looking down the bore the chamber is passing the bore so the hand is too long and the cylinder is passing the notch.
 
hawg said:
Looking down the bore the chamber is passing the bore so the hand is too long and the cylinder is passing the notch.
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If that's the case it also has a throw by problem. The bolt should have dropped and the cylinder locked up jamming the action. OP, when the the hammer is cocked can you rotate the cylinder by hand and have it come into battery? Is it traveling past the chamber or stopping short?
 
Blackpowderwarrior said:
Howells Uberti conversion cylinder is a literal drop in fit for my Santa Barbara.
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the Uberti one works 100%? is there a model difference as with the Pietta's. When I ordered the Howells Pietta one there is 2 different models. there was a difference on the older Piettas. I think before 2000 or something like that. if the Uberti works as you say than I will just leave this Pietta Conversion cylinder as is and put it in my Pietta Revolver where it fits perfectly and try to get a Uberti one. I was hoping that this would work
 
Parys said:
the Uberti one works 100%? is there a model difference as with the Pietta's. When I ordered the Howells Pietta one there is 2 different models. there was a difference on the older Piettas. I think before 2000 or something like that. if the Uberti works as you say than I will just leave this Pietta Conversion cylinder as is and put it in my Pietta Revolver where it fits perfectly and try to get a Uberti one. I was hoping that this would work
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Yes mine fits perfectly.
 
Hello Parys,

The difference on the Pietta's is the Bolt & Notch width.
I had a hard drive crash and lost a lot of information,
but I do know the early models had a bolt notch width of 0.138"
and the later models have a bolt notch width of 0.156".
I do believe you are close on the date of the change.

AntiqueSledMan.
 
This is where it gets a bit sticky, the hand is slightly short. If you change things it will effect the original cylinder, one has to work it so both cylinders work by finding a happy medium.
 
Will the bolt lock in if you line it up by hand? If it will lock in how does the chamber match up with the bore?
 
So at this point either building up the hand or stretching it is in order. I've found that a good number of these revolvers have a short hand. If it's a tiny bit short stretching it works but most I've run across lately were too short and had to be built up with a weld and then re fitted.
 
I would fix the bolt slop first and then check bore alignment before I started stretching hands. Pietta used about five different hands over the years.
 
Sometimes a little slop in the bolt is a good thing, especially if chambers have been mis-machined. That little bit of movement can help with chamber to barrel alignment. Is it right.... not really but sometimes ya just gotta go with it.
 
I do not really want to change anything on my SB because if I fit my original C & B cylinder I do not want to work on my revolver again. It must come to a simple strait forward swap between cylinders. the mod has to be the cylinder
 
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