Could anyone shed any light on this shotgun? I have only found 2 by this maker on the internet,and have no idea of value, gauge ,etc. The barrels are marked 16.2 and 16.8, which i am lead to believe is size in mm. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you
1890's German JJ Reeb shotgun, info needed
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Johan Jakob Reeb was a gunsmith in Bonn, Germany, who produced high-end hunting rifles and shotguns from the 1870s to the early 1900s; he also ran a gunsmithing school (August Pachmayr, the smith who founded Pachmayr Gun Works, was one of his apprentices). The "16.x" markings are the choke dimensions, but these measurements could be for 16, 17, or 18 gauge shotguns, so you really need the rim dimensions to know which shells this shotgun would be chambered for (including the lengths, because these would be shorter than the standard shells used today, if available). In any event, I'd say that this wouldn't be the sort of thing that should be fired anyway.
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Very handsome.
Now if you take the barrels off and show us the proof marks on the frame "water table" and the barrel flats we can tell a bit more about it. If it were nitro proofed, I would not mind shooting it with the right 65mm/2.5" shells.
Now if you take the barrels off and show us the proof marks on the frame "water table" and the barrel flats we can tell a bit more about it. If it were nitro proofed, I would not mind shooting it with the right 65mm/2.5" shells.
Have been trying to get a view able photo of the proof marks,alas, my camera sucks.....it is not nitro proofed, from what i have been able to find, made between 1887/1894, mark "not for ball" in German, the is a letter with a star over it,which seems to be a inspectors mark,one barrel marked 16.2,the other is marked 16.8. There is a 4 digit serial number, and three letters in a pear shaped circle,.. hope that helps,the photos just are blurry. I don't think these are demaskis (sic?) barrels, more a pattern on them. The pattern does not go under the fore-stock. Black powder, so where/who could i possibly get rounds/shells? i have heard people still shoot these old ones......
Jim Watson
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Could those letters be E L G?
If so, that is the long time standard Belgian proof mark, which kind of flies in the face of Herr Reeb's German background.
Also (star)(letter) is a long time standard Belgian inspector's stamp.
16.8mm is the standard bore diameter for 16 gauge and may indicate cylinder bore - no choke on that side. 16.2mm would be a close modified if all other dimensions were standard.
Never heard of a 17 gauge breechloader, but maybe SDC has seen one.
Yes, the more i learn about it,it does seem to be Belgian. Which ,as you said, conflicts with all i've learned about Reeb and where he had his shop in Dunn.Did they "outsource" back then?
The barrels mate tight to the face, bores are clean. Buffalo arms has the brass shells,wadding, I've found a little load data,would love to put some food on the table with it come pheasant season!
The barrels mate tight to the face, bores are clean. Buffalo arms has the brass shells,wadding, I've found a little load data,would love to put some food on the table with it come pheasant season!
vaupet
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I already posted this link to Belgian proofs several times, but it doesn't hurt to do it one more time: http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.html
greetings
Peter
greetings
Peter
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