1895GS, another question...

[chad1043]

So withing hte next couple months I'm gonna buy a Maril Lever action Rifle...

I have found great reviews on the Marlin 1895GS. I have also found great reviews on my second choice... Marlin 336SS in 30/30...

So here is the questions, the only bad thing I have heard about the 95GS is the recoil... I am used to shooting a 8mm Mauser (Grandpa's Gun) and a .243 (Dad's Gun), both were handed down. So how do they compare to the recoil of the 1895GS? I also have a A-5 12 Gauge which I can shoot all day, but that is due to the great recoil system.

I would like some camparison between the two... 30/30 and 45-70... But only from those who have shot both, please....

Thanks...
Chad

 

[MattB]

I have an 1895GS in .45-70 and I love it. I also have an 1894 winchester in .30-30. The Marlin comes with a recoil pad but my .30-.30 is a hard stock with no recoil pad. I can shoot the .45-70 longer and more comfortably than my .30-.30 due to this. The recoil on the .45-70 depends on the ammo. I have shot the remington 300gr and 405gr. The 405 gr feel like a .30-30 but the 300 grains feel closer to a pump 12 gauge with bird hunting loads. I would imagine the garrett and bufallo bore hotloads feel more like a high brass 3" magnum slug load. The recoil is not that bad . My 115 lb fiance can shoot the guide gun and has no problems with the recoil.

Matt

 

[Starter52]

MattB is totally correct. The Marlin .45/70 is not too bad when firing the Remington factory load. Any experienced shooter should be able to handle it.

The 1895 is such a well-designed gun that the recoil really isn't much of a factor with the standard factory loads. It's when you get into the hotloads that you start to feel the kick.

The Remington factory load will kill any whitetail deer in North America with one shot. It has killed dozens of moose in Maine and Quebec. I recommend it.

 

[Dean C]

I have the 1985 Cowboy 45/70 and a 336A 30/30.

Recoil: is less with my 30/30. Both with hard plastic butt plates.

Capacity: Cowboy 9 rounds / 336A 6 rounds) is just the opposite in your case.

Ammo availability: 45/70 some places (ie. Wally World) don't even carry in. 30/30 available everywhere.

Ammo cost: 45/70, break out the check-book. 30/30 wallet.

Game: 45/70 pretty much unlimited. 30/30 the larger your game, the better your shot placement needs to be.

Based on my situation, and the fact that I have both, I use the 30/30 for everything including Black Bear. The 45/70 for everything above that. Although I did buy the 45/70 for Bear.

The 30/30 was my first hunting rifle and has served me well. The 45/70 to me is more of a novelty, but I really love it.

Bottom line, IMO, the 30/30 is a better choice.

dean

 

[chad1043]

Thanks for the input... Keep it coming...

 

[SwampWolf]

A couple of years ago,a friend of mine (an accomplished shooter, I might add) finally bought a new Marlin 45-70 rifle (not carbine) that he's always lusted after. About two months later, he sold it because he found the recoil too stout for him (and he's a pretty big guy). I shot a few rounds through it and, though I found the kick from the 300 grainers a little on the robust side, I didn't find it at all unpleasant. The same thing goes for my Winchester Model 1886 Light-weight repo 45-70 and my Savage Model 99 carbine, chambered in .358 Win.

Bottom line IMO is that tolerance for recoil is almost always an individual matter. I will argue, however, that any 45-70 is always going to produce more recoil than any equivalent 30-30, "felt" or otherwise.

 

[mosrogfor]

I too have been looking at the Marlin 1895GS.

However my biggest issue is that I can't find anyone who has one available locally.

I've always been a huge Marlin fan and the 336 is one of my favorite rifles. Good luck and I don't you'll be disappointed with either.

 

[mikewalker]

a little late?

Found this a little late-6/3/06 but I'll throw my 2bits in anyway. Bought an 1895gs for my solo trips in the Brooks Range and shoot Buffalo Bore's 430gr loads. With the factory pad it's kinda rough. But with either the Pachmyer Decelerator or Redline (I switch stocks with my 1895 LTD III) it's softer than my 30-30 Savage 219 (grandpa's) with it's WWII era plastic butt plate. With 300gr or 405gr loads it's about the same as my 30-30.

For what it's worth I replaced the trigger/sear, ejector with the ones made by Wild West Guns from Anchorage. Their trigger is NICE, also replaced the mag tube spring with one from Wolfe. A little bugged about the tool marks I had to blend out on the carrier arm....But it's a sweet tool to insure I come back from each trip (2 folks on the Hulahula weren't so lucky last time up)

 

[byf43]

Chad,

I have both the 1895G and the 1895CB in .45/70 Gov't.
Because of a neck injury (broken neck), I haven't shot either one, yet. (Doctor's orders!):banghead:

I did recently buy a Limbsaver pad for the 1895G. (Less than $20 at Midway USA, on sale.)

There is a LOT of reloading data available for the .45/70 out there, too.

A friend bought the Marlin .45/70 that resembles the 336 (1895SS or 1895S, I think. . . not sure of model #) and he shoots 300 gr JHP and took 3 Mulies out west, in several seasons.
He's kinda recoil shy and won't even attempt the 405 grainers. He shoots the Winchester factory loads and says that they are pussy-cats.

Another friend lives in Nebraska and took a real nice moose and a caribou in Canada, with his 1895G!